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Re: St Aubyn Burke - Where to start?
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 27 March 19 21:11 GMT (UK) »




You have


 Given names: Eileen Gertrude St. Aubyn
Surname: Burke
Birth: approx. 1858, Ireland
Marriage: 23rd of December 1884, New South Wales, Australia
Husband: Henry John Murray (born in New Zealand)





Where in NSW??





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Re: St Aubyn Burke - Where to start?
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 27 March 19 21:14 GMT (UK) »




You have


 Given names: Eileen Gertrude St. Aubyn
Surname: Burke
Birth: approx. 1858, Ireland
Marriage: 23rd of December 1884, New South Wales, Australia
Husband: Henry John Murray (born in New Zealand)





Where in NSW??

Marriage record here: https://i.imgur.com/bZEQHfH.png

St. Thomas Church [illegible], Petersham, NSW an RC church

https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/168798344?q&versionId=183994348 This only goes up to 1870
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Re: St Aubyn Burke - Where to start?
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 28 March 19 09:30 GMT (UK) »
Check Overseas Births Register for army births?

Source   Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)
Archive reference   REG1
Record set   British Armed Forces And Overseas Births And Baptisms
First name(s)   John
Sex   Male
Last name   Burke
Birth year   1828
Regiment   74th Foot
Type   Armed Forces
Country   Ireland
Place   Cork
Page   44
Archive   
General Register Office
Record's year range   1828
Volume   1304
Line number   102
Category   Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory   Civil Births
Collections from   Great Britain, UK Other

There's another one with the same details, but on page 48 instead of 44. Used findmypast for that, not sure if that's the best one to use for these records? Too bad John Burke is such a common name, it's hard to figure out who is who. This one would've been 30 when Eileen was born.

No St Aubyn Burke, Stella Burke, Eileen Gertrude Burke on any of the New South Wales BDM, newspapers, findmypast, familysearch or ancestry. Couldn't find any more information on Eileen from Paper's Past either (NZ newspapers), only two obituaries which Christine53 found.

Tried NSW BDM for just Burke and parents given names as John and Stella, no records.

Waiting on NZ death certificate. Going to continue with Australia in the hopes of finding something. Tried Victoria and QLD too. If I'm unable to find anything will post to the Australian subforum.
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Re: St Aubyn Burke - Where to start?
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 28 March 19 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Did you look for Eileen, Emily or Gertrude Burke in Regimental Birth Indices? I'm confused as to where the name Emily came from. Was it a mistake?
Have you tried phonetic spellings of Burke, e.g. Bourke?
Searching for a John Burke without further information is looking for needles in haystacks. According to one source, Burke is in top 20 most common Irish surnames. Add to that the fact that joining the army was a popular career choice for young Irishmen - they were a huge proportion of the British Army in 19thC.
Remember the Irish versions of St. Aubyn  -  Tobin and Toibin. John St Aubyn Burke could be John Tobin Burke or Owen Tobin Bourke, or any combination.
Stella may have been short for Estella. Eileen could be Ellen or Helen.

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Re: St Aubyn Burke - Where to start?
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 28 March 19 17:24 GMT (UK) »



Am really pushing the boat out now....   ;D

Given the rarity of St. Aubyn in Ireland and that yours was a military man could he have been a "Burke of Castle Town"


James St. Aubyn (b 16.10.1709, d 29.02.1753, 3rd son)
     (1)    John St. Aubyn
     m. _ Burke (dau of John Burke of Castle Town)
     (A)+    issue - John, Catherine, Mary


https://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/ss4tz/staubyn2.php



https://www.stirnet.com/genie/support/indices/bindbb.php




Am only posting as it is the only St. Aubyn  m.  Burke I can find!!

I am aware of Years and that children weren't Burke and haven't checked the Burkes in /indices/bindbb.php  link posted!





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Re: St Aubyn Burke - Where to start?
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 01 May 19 10:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks @hallmark, that is an interesting lead. Hmm, a marriage between a St Aubyn and a Burke does seem like the right track.

Bit of a stretch here too:

Name: JOHN BURKE
Date of Event: 1851
Group Registration ID: N/R
SR District/Reg Area: Cork
Returns Year: 1851
Returns Quarter: 1
Returns Volume No: 4
Returns Page No: 494

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie
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