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Offline arthurk

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Re: A painfull preacher
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 30 March 19 19:13 GMT (UK) »
According to the OED, one meaning of painful (now rare) when applied to a person was 'painstaking, assiduous, diligent'.

Some of the examples given sound strange to our ears:
- Such seruants are often both paineful and good. (1570)
- The women be verie painefull and the men often idle. (1612)
- The more Learned, Godly, Painful Ministers of the Land. (1702)
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Re: A painfull preacher
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 30 March 19 19:29 GMT (UK) »
So it was a compliment  :)
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Re: A painfull preacher
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 30 March 19 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Arthurk,
I've also been checking the OED

Of an action, occupation etc; performed with or involving great care or diligence

1565 - "In consideration of their vertuous sermons and painful preaching"
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Re: A painfull preacher
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 30 March 19 22:53 GMT (UK) »
According to the OED, one meaning of painful (now rare) when applied to a person was 'painstaking, assiduous, diligent'.

Some of the examples given sound strange to our ears:
- Such seruants are often both paineful and good. (1570)
- The women be verie painefull and the men often idle. (1612)
- The more Learned, Godly, Painful Ministers of the Land. (1702)

How interesting....who would have thought it could have been a positive comment!

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Re: A painfull preacher
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 31 March 19 09:33 BST (UK) »
According to the OED, one meaning of painful (now rare) when applied to a person was 'painstaking, assiduous, diligent'.
How interesting....who would have thought it could have been a positive comment!  Carol
 
As you have pointed out - painfull = painstaking.  Same derivation presumably, the pain is to yourself.
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Re: A painfull preacher
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 31 March 19 14:26 BST (UK) »
See https://cromhallchapel.org/2018/08/06/a-painful-preacher-of-the-truth/
There are many other references to "painful preacher" on Google
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