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Sharp in Clerkenwell 1850s
« on: Saturday 30 March 19 18:22 GMT (UK) »
I’m trying to trace Annie Sharpe born early 1850s in Clerkenwell.
The earliest definite record I have is her marriage to James Sheridan Johnson in 1879, St Pancras church. She names her father Henry Sharpe, watch maker. I also know she had a younger sister, Jane Sharpe, married to Charles Simpson in St Pancras in 1875. The marriage register does not give details about her father except ‘dead’.
The sisters are living next door to each other in the 1881 census in Clerkenwell: Annie born around 1854 in Clerkenwell, Jane born around 1855 also in Clerkenwell. They are consistent on Clerkenwell and roughly these dates of birth in subsequent censuses.
Because I’m descended through the youngest children of subsequent generations, Annie is in fact only my great grandmother. My grandmother remembered regularly visiting her aunt Jane Simpson in Islington around the 1900s.
Another thing my grandmother recalled: Girling is a family name.

From here things get a little more speculative.
I can find nothing promising in 1871. But in 1861, there’s an Annie and Jane Sharp (9 and 6 respectively) attending the Clerkenwell Workhouse School in Upper Holloway.
I have also found Ann Sharp (b. 1851) and Jane (b. 1854) baptized together in 1855 in St Philip Clerkenwell, living at 29 Noble Street. Their parents are given as Thomas, watchmaker, and Elizabeth. Civil registration records show that Elizabeth’s maiden name is Girling.

So my theory has been that Annie may have misstated her father’s name on the marriage certificate (or the clerk messed up): her father was Thomas, not Henry. But, of course, this isn’t very satisfactory without more evidence.

The recent GRO birth index has pointed me towards some younger children of Thomas & Elizabeth Sharp: James Henry born in 1840 (24 Union Buildings, Shoreditch), Emma in 1842 (20? Brewer Street North, Clerkenwell) and William in 1844 (16 Brewer Street, Clerkenwell). I can’t find their baptisms -- nor can I find these three younger children, or their parents Thomas and Elizabeth, in any census.
Just to make things more complicated, the 1845 Post Office Directory lists a Henry Sharp, watch finisher, at 19 Brewer Street North.

I keep coming back to this line but it’s proving a tough nut to crack. Any thoughts welcome!

Mike
Johnson, Thacker, Clarke, Cawthorn, Scott, Sharpe, Jordan.

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Re: Sharp in Clerkenwell 1850s
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 March 19 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Will have a look.  From the sidebar info it appears your email address may not be working for Rootschat notifications - you may want to check that?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Sharp in Clerkenwell 1850s
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 March 19 18:57 GMT (UK) »
1841 census

Brewer St, Clerkenwell

Henry Sharp 28 Watch m. N [“Donn” Sharp on Ancestry’s index]
Elizabeth do 27 Y
James do 1 Y
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Sharp in Clerkenwell 1850s
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 March 19 19:11 GMT (UK) »
You refer to “younger children” but of course the three 1840s children are older than Ann & Jane.

Is this the full list of birth registrations then?

James Henry Sharp mmn Girling, Mar qtr 1840 Shoreditch
Emma Sharp mmn Girling, Sep qtr 1842 Clerkenwell
William Sharp mmn Girling, Dec qtr 1844 Clerkenwell
Ann Sharp mmn Girling, Jun qtr 1851 Clerkenwell
Jane Crookshank Sharp mmn Girling, Mar qtr 1855 Clerkenwell
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Sharp in Clerkenwell 1850s
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 March 19 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Marriage
8 Feb 1837  (how annoying a few months too soon)

Elizabeth Girling to Thomas Phillips Sharp

Place London.  No church on index.

Added,  ow Ancestry finally letting me in, church was St Clements , Eastcheap

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Re: Sharp in Clerkenwell 1850s
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 March 19 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Looking at that gap in births, might Thomas have died c 1845 and his brother Henry took over the business and his sister in law?

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Re: Sharp in Clerkenwell 1850s
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 30 March 19 19:48 GMT (UK) »
I am pretty confident it is Henry with Elizabeth in 1841 (despite the transcriber’s difficulty with it).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Sharp in Clerkenwell 1850s
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 30 March 19 20:00 GMT (UK) »
Death?

SHARP, ELIZABETH        
Age 45 
Q3 1859 CLERKENWELL  Volume 01B  Page 343


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Re: Sharp in Clerkenwell 1850s
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 30 March 19 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Re reading your post, do I understand you do have all the birth certs and they all have the father as Thomas?