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William Earl 1822 -1900 of Bramley Surrey looking for Bastardy Records

https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/person/tree/82764159/person/48466407267/facts

Hi from NZ been working on this tree for awhile and got most bits off his complicated life
he was Son of Esther Earl father unknown

Esther married a William Warner

Esther born abt 1798 • Bramley, Surrey, England Death 25 MAR 1875 • Bramley Surrey, United Kingdom

William was born 4 Dec 1822 • Bramley, Surrey, England
Baptism 15 Feb 1824 • Bramley, Holy Trinity, Surrey, England
Death 14 JANUARY 1900  Port Elizabeth, South Africa.
what i have found but not sure if him a William Earl married a Sarah Turner(died after a few months of marriage)
21 Jul 1851 • Surrey FHL Film Number: 397761, 397762, 397763, 97141
what was interesting was this William Earl listed his father as a JAMES LONGHURST
there are a few floating around near the Bramely area at the time
would love to confirm if this is the right William earl and this is his father
so would there be a bastardy record for the Bramley district that may have his name in it
William also came out to NZ and had at least on child there,this is the line i am working  on for a friend
he had more children in England and in South Africa
.but there is a big blank of years till he reached NZ
Last record  is as a rail laborer  in census
Residence 1851 • Orlestone, Kent, England
not on any passenger list,so maybe crew ,or came out to NZ to work on the railway been built at the time
I think his earl family worked at Wintershall or near by,his grandfather did live at  Little Gate St Bramley.
But in that area anyway, the tree is up on Ancestry and public, save me puting more detail down
I am just interested in his father mainly,and lost time
this maybe his passport number when he applied if him
30 Jul 1860 passport 29843 this may be him applying for passport
So thanks in advance for any help on this guy

https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/person/tree/82764159/person/48466407267/facts
mcilraith norgrove bray kent strong hood logan ford  smith fellows

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Re: William Earl 1822 -1900 of Bramley Surrey looking for Bastardy Records
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 00:32 BST (UK) »
Just an update maybe found him on the 1841 Rail laborer Horley Surrey
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Re: William Earl 1822 -1900 of Bramley Surrey looking for Bastardy Records
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 21:09 BST (UK) »

Hi,

It looks like James LONGHURST was the father of Esther's child,

"Printed Kalendar of 119 prisoners held at Brixton, Kingston-upon Thames and Guildford for the Surrey General Quarter Session at Newington on 13 January 1824"

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14603696

"James Longhurst: getting Esther Earl with child, likely to be born a bastard and chargeable to the parish."


Regards,
Daisy
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Re: William Earl 1822 -1900 of Bramley Surrey looking for Bastardy Records
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 April 19 00:14 BST (UK) »
wow this solves a 200 year mystery
big thanks
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