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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 00:43 BST (UK) »
Hi
I have just looked at this now, so how do we find out any further information on this.
Jan

Good point Sue.   I think that naa.gov.au record for a Harry GODDARD could be helpful.  The series it belongs to shows in part that it is

'   Assistance and medical files, 1914/18 War, single number series with 'R' prefix'

There is a service number for that Harry Goddard at the naa index.   Perhaps it is a UK service number ??
GODDARD, Harry - Service Number - 377004

ADD ... that file's location is in the Perth office of NAA.   

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New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 01:05 BST (UK) »
Access can be sought,  you click on the item, and then it will have an option 'request copy' and you click on that and follow the prompts.  There will be fees/charges.

ADD, they will need to examine before opening the access.
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I have just looked at this now, so how do we find out any further information on this.
Jan

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 01:28 BST (UK) »
Okay, thanks for this.     Before I go any further, these two children of the Goddard gentleman were fathered in Broome from 1923 onwards, and the only Goddard in Broome at that time was this Harry Goddard,and of course the other George Charles Goddard who we have completed discounted now. The Court records were from Broome in 1925.

I know we are looking for the period of military 1915-1919, but I still have have doubts about this fellow being him. Every electoral records from 1913 right through to 1924 show him as a Pearler.

Anyway I shall go ahead and request copy, see what happens
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 01:37 BST (UK) »
I am attaching a much clearer image for the passport info. 

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 01:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks JM, just stepping out for DR appointment, will be back later in the morning
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 01:42 BST (UK) »
When did it become compulsory to enrol in Western Australia?   Google says not until 1936...

In the 1920s ... They needed to have residency (I think six months at same location) and be a British Subject ('Australian citizenship not a factor until 1949) and they needed to be aged 21 years or over.

I think it is not safe to say your Harry was the only GODDARD in Broome in 1923 or thereabouts.

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 02:50 BST (UK) »
Well certainly electoral rolls certainly showed two Goddards there in Broome, one Harry and the other George Charles Goddard.    On some records that our family has provided us from Broome dated 1938 where the young lady that was born in 1923 was applying for a permit to work, her being half aboriginal, someone has written beside her birth date Henry Goddard, Clerk.
So who knows what this is all about.   However the daughter of this lady born in 1923 is my 4th Cousin through DNA testing.

Jan

When did it become compulsory to enrol in Western Australia?   Google says not until 1936...

In the 1920s ... They needed to have residency (I think six months at same location) and be a British Subject ('Australian citizenship not a factor until 1949) and they needed to be aged 21 years or over.

I think it is not safe to say your Harry was the only GODDARD in Broome in 1923 or thereabouts.

JM 
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 03:10 BST (UK) »
Yes,  377004 is a significant number for an English enlistment WWI as per the TNA, Kew, website.   I searched using just the number !  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-medal-index-cards-1914-1920/

Medal card of Harry GODDARD, Royal Berkshire Regiment, Regiment number 22464, Private.
Reference WO372/8/41609

So I would expect that the chap who served in WWI with the Royal Berks Regiment is the same chap who has a file at the National Archives of Australia’s Perth office. 

I am sure Jan will have Ancestry access to the relevant image of the medal card index for that chap.

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 04:01 BST (UK) »
From my desk during lunch today...

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2766689 The West Australian  5 Nov 1919,  the Perth Bailiff for the Local Court, Perth, selling land, unpaid rates. Including Item 70, where there was £4/1/3d owed.

Lot 30, of Canning, Location 2.   Registered proprietor being Henry Seeligson (the younger) of Perth, a financier and Harry Goddard, baker of Broome as owner. 

I am fairly sure that would be Canning, a suburb of Perth.  Is it possible that the baker of Broome had outstanding rates on land in Canning, Perth - perhaps unpaid because he was not actually in Broome, perhaps not actually in Australia, but was in England taking his discharge after serving in WWI …. perhaps the financier was strapped for cash and did not want to wait any longer to hear from Harry.  Speculations of course ...   

Most likely Jan has already thoroughly researched the baker of Broome. 

I can see that the broomemuseum’s online list of names has H GODDARD as a Pearler, no mention of H being for Harry, or any Goddard as a baker.
https://broomemuseum.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/family-file.pdf

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