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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #18 on: Friday 05 April 19 04:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Carol,
Thanks for this, I contacted Museum, they were great.   As far as running something in the newspapers, I think I have to be a little discreet at this stage.   Jan

A few suggestions from someone who lived there for a while 8)

Museum - run by excellent volunteers - https://broomemuseum.org.au/
Library - the best - http://www.broome.wa.gov.au/Facilities-Recreation/Broome-Public-Library
Local paper - might run your story - https://www.broomead.com.au/

There's also a local TV station (apart from ABC) that shows a lot of documentaries about old Broome.  Can't think of their name right now ::)

Hope some of this helps :D

Carol
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 11 May 19 12:36 BST (UK) »
Well, it looks like we Harry Goddard of Broome came from England in 1910 on board the Orvieto, and that George Charles Goddard is no family connection at all.

Harry Goddard b. 1.7.1891 was son of Kate Goddard (nee Thorn) who came from Reading, Berkshire, England.   We could not find Harry in 1911 Census in UK, so believe this would be our man now.

After a lot of searching through DNA matching, we have come up with this Thorn family connection now.   It seems that he returned to England in 1927 on board the "Ausonia" bound for Reading England.

If anyone can assist me with any further information, other than the Pearling days in Broome, would really appreciate that.

This has been quite an amazing journey trying to find the family link.

Regards Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 11 May 19 12:47 BST (UK) »
the free part of the 1939 register has Harry GODDARD b 1891 living at 92 Bulmershe Road, Reading.
there is one other person in the household

1945, 1950 electoral roll has Harry GODDARD & Kate GODDARD at 92 Bulmershe Road

possible deaths?

Deaths Jun 1955   (>99%)
GODDARD    Harry    63    Reading    6a   75

Deaths Mar 1953   (>99%)
GODDARD    Kate    89    Reading    6a   153
currently concentrating on NUTCHER & MARSHALL families, Hampshire.
and family of Thomas ANDERSON a Tailor of Perth, Scotland

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 12 May 19 02:14 BST (UK) »
Thank you, yes I have that information, I would just love more information, if possible, from 1924 in Australia right through to when he arrived in England in 1927,and from then until around 1939.
He appeared to have various occupations during the period, having a bakery, then a Pearler in Broome W.A., shipping records shows him as a Carpenter, and then he becomes a Manager of a Hotel.   So just need total confirmation, if we can find anything.    This has been a difficult one, as he fathered two children in Broome, and we have these good DNA matches, which match up with so many of our Thorn family.   Katie Thorn married a Goddard, and Harry went back to Reading to live with his Mother, who was a Widow.

the free part of the 1939 register has Harry GODDARD b 1891 living at 92 Bulmershe Road, Reading.
there is one other person in the household

1945, 1950 electoral roll has Harry GODDARD & Kate GODDARD at 92 Bulmershe Road

possible deaths?

Deaths Jun 1955   (>99%)
GODDARD    Harry    63    Reading    6a   75

Deaths Mar 1953   (>99%)
GODDARD    Kate    89    Reading    6a   153
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 21 May 19 03:47 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your assistance.
We feel now that this may not have been the correct Henry or Harry Goddard that arrived on board the Orvieto in 1910.   We have found a Henry Goddard arriving October 1910 on board the "Orsova" with the occupation of Butcher.    Having found the Goddard family back in Reading having a Butchery Business, we feel that this would be more likely to be him.    As he was born in 1891, he would have been 19 years of age at that time, it would seem more likely that he opened this Bakery business (different product of course) before he became a Pearler.
We have found a Harry Goddard in 1926 census living in Perth, working as a Barman.  Appropriate that he left Broome then for Perth, and it appears he returned to England 1927, via Canada.
We just want to make sure that we have the right Harry Goddard.
I am sorry if I went off the track with this Goddard family, but it was due to finding a family member in Reading Berkshire, who married George Goddard and then had son Harry, that led us on the correct trail.
Are there any shipping records available from Fremantle to Sydney to confirm his departure from Australia, I mean more local shipping records from Derby or Broome as well.
Thank you for all of your assistance, am so grateful.   Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 21 May 19 04:04 BST (UK) »
.....
We have found a Harry Goddard in 1926 census living in Perth, working as a Barman.  Appropriate that he left Broome then for Perth, and it appears he returned to England 1927, via Canada.
We just want to make sure that we have the right Harry Goddard......

Are there any shipping records available from Fremantle to Sydney to confirm his departure from Australia, I mean more local shipping records from Derby or Broome as well.
Thank you for all of your assistance, am so grateful.   Jan

I am confused.... what Census in 1926?

Here is a carpenter who departed Montreal (Canada) for London in 1927, showing his last permanent address was Australia...  no mention of which Australian state or of when he had arrived in Montreal.   

My Transcription
Incoming passenger lists to London.
Montreal to London
Ausonia, arriving London 19 July 1927.
Harry GODDARD, 
Proposed address in the UK : 10 Bulmarshe Road, Reading
Profession/Occupation: Carpenter
Age 36 
Country of last permanent residence : Australia
Country of intended future permanent residence: England.

JM
 


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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 21 May 19 04:07 BST (UK) »
Outward passenger lists from Sydney from 1923 :
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/SeriesDetail.aspx?series_no=SP1148/2

Are you sure he departed from Sydney?

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 21 May 19 04:12 BST (UK) »
Oops, sorry, I used the wrong word, should have been electoral roll.

And yes, that is him, but he changed his occupation to Carpenter, I guess not unusual for those days, but definitely our family in Reading.
Jan

Jan
.....
We have found a Harry Goddard in 1926 census living in Perth, working as a Barman.  Appropriate that he left Broome then for Perth, and it appears he returned to England 1927, via Canada.
We just want to make sure that we have the right Harry Goddard......

Are there any shipping records available from Fremantle to Sydney to confirm his departure from Australia, I mean more local shipping records from Derby or Broome as well.
Thank you for all of your assistance, am so grateful.   Jan

I am confused.... what Census in 1926?

Here is a carpenter who departed Montreal (Canada) for London in 1927, showing his last permanent address was Australia...  no mention of which Australian state or of when he had arrived in Montreal.   

My Transcription
Incoming passenger lists to London.
Montreal to London
Ausonia, arriving London 19 July 1927.
Harry GODDARD, 
Proposed address in the UK : 10 Bulmarshe Road, Reading
Profession/Occupation: Carpenter
Age 36 
Country of last permanent residence : Australia
Country of intended future permanent residence: England.

JM
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 21 May 19 04:14 BST (UK) »
1925 Electoral Roll
Broome
Harry GODDARD, a shop assistant, residing Roebuck Bay Hotel, Broome.

1925 Electoral Roll
Perth
Harry GODDARD, a barman, residing McNeil Chambers, Barrack St, Perth .

So perhaps at least two possible chaps named Harry GODDARD in W.A in 1925

JM
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