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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 21 May 19 04:16 BST (UK) »
Well as far as we know he left Sydney, maybe he left Fremantle.   Due to the various change of occupations, from Butcher to Baker, to Pearler for a number of years, Licensee of Dampier Hotel in Broome, then Barman in Perth, then back to Butcher over in Canada, and Carpenter.   When he got back to England he was Licensee of a Pub in Reading, so that hopefully fits in with him.
Due to this amazing family DNA match in Broome, where he allegedly fathered 2 children, we just want to get all the facts absolutely correct.
Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 21 May 19 04:20 BST (UK) »
Hi again,
Yes that is what worries me, I also saw one for 1926 in Perth.   But I have also heard that Electoral Rolls may not always be correct, they can overlap with the years.

But certainly we have Court records of January, 1925, saying that a Goddard had fathered two children in 1925, but unfortunately no christian name given.   We have a Henry Goddard in our family.

Jan


1925 Electoral Roll
Broome
Harry GODDARD, a shop assistant, residing Roebuck Bay Hotel, Broome.

1925 Electoral Roll
Perth
Harry GODDARD, a barman, residing McNeil Chambers, Barrack St, Perth .

So perhaps at least two possible chaps named Harry GODDARD in W.A in 1925…

JM
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 21 May 19 04:21 BST (UK) »
If we can find shipping records from Broome or Derby to Fremantle, we may then be able to confirm the correct gentleman.
Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 21 May 19 04:33 BST (UK) »
Hi again,
Yes that is what worries me, I also saw one for 1926 in Perth.   But I have also heard that Electoral Rolls may not always be correct, they can overlap with the years.

But certainly we have Court records of January, 1925, saying that a Goddard had fathered two children in 1925, but unfortunately no christian name given.   We have a Henry Goddard in our family.

Jan
....

Yes, in that era, the electoral office relied on people notifying them when they moved, and when they re-enrolled, the electoral office could of course follow up and check that they had been removed from their previous electoral roll. 

But you mention births of two children.   The W.A. bdm has births indexed and displayed online up to 1932...  So perhaps you could consider seeking the birth certs... https://bdm.justice.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx

Here is the live link to shipping info 1920s Western Australia
http://www.sro.wa.gov.au/archive-collection/collection/passenger-lists-and-immigration-records

Here is the live link to shipping info 1920s New South Wales
https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/immigration-shipping-guide

Notice it shows Departures from Sydney after 1922; from Newcastle 1865-1935
The National Archives of Australia (NAA) holds Sydney outward passenger lists from 1923 onwards and lists of departures from Newcastle between 1865 and 1935.


Here is the naa fact sheets index:
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/fact-sheets/index.aspx

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/fact-sheets/fs56.aspx  Passenger lists held in W.A.
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/SeriesDetail.aspx?series_no=PP240/2


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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 21 May 19 04:41 BST (UK) »
Have you found the arrival to Canada for that chap who departed from Montreal to arrive London July 1927... 

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 21 May 19 05:03 BST (UK) »
Yes have found Harry Goddard sailed from Sydney to Victoria BC arriving October 1926, fare paid by Mother, Mrs. K. Goddard, his occupation Butcher.   He landed as an Immigrant and he left Montreal in July 1927 heading to England, occupation now a Carpenter, last place of residence Australia.
Jan

Have you found the arrival to Canada for that chap who departed from Montreal to arrive London July 1927... 

JM
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 21 May 19 05:07 BST (UK) »
what ship from Sydney?

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 21 May 19 05:10 BST (UK) »
"Ausonia"
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching for George Charles Goddard or Harry Goddard of Broome W.A.
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 21 May 19 05:13 BST (UK) »
Does that passenger list give you information about any relatives - names/addresses etc remaining in Australia?  Or perhaps where his passport was issued?

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