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Arthur Lloyd Brace
« on: Monday 01 April 19 14:23 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Am trying to find more info on my maternal grandfather, Arthur Brace.  Have managed to track down a death certificate (died 20th June 1988 in London) but trying to more on when/where he was born - his death certificate only said about 1919 - & any further info about him & his family.
 
All I know about him is that he was in the army at some point, he apparently walked with a cane so assume he was injured in the 2nd World War & that he had the odd acting job.  He lived with a Jessie Colquhoun (nee Malcolm) for a while in the Brixton area of London during the 60's.

Any help/pointers welcome. 

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Re: Arthur Lloyd Brace
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 April 19 15:10 BST (UK) »
As he would have been in the Army after 1920 his records are still with the MOD
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=651361.0

ADDED Royal Artillery attestations have him 'To A.A.C   3-9-42
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Re: Arthur Lloyd Brace
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 April 19 15:13 BST (UK) »
Could this be his birth registration with mothers maiden surname LLoyd
Births Sep qtr  1919   
Arthur L Brace    MMN Lloyd   
Watford    3a   1251   

You should be able to find him with his parents on the 1939 register
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Re: Arthur Lloyd Brace
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 April 19 15:17 BST (UK) »
I can find two entries on the GRO site for an Athur L Brace born 1919

Arthur L Brace Sep 1919 Watford 3a 1251 mmn Lloyd

Arhtur L Brace Jun 1919 Edmonton 3a 826 mmn Langton

The latter birth with mmn Langton was living in Edmonton prior to WW2 with parents and sister Ella and was an Apprentice Toolmaker.

Entries for the military show an Arthur Lloyd Brace joing the Royal Artillery in 1939.

There is a marriage for an Arthur Henry Brace to a Bertha Lloyd Dec 1906 Watford 3a 1387 and the couple appear in the 1911 Census living in Watford with daughters Gwendoline Novella aged 3 and Kitty Lloyd aged 1.

At a guess I'd say your Arthur L Brace is the one born Watford but obviously I cannot be 100% certain. I have found another Arthur Brace, this time an Arthur Leonard, also joining the Royal Artillery in 1940 and I'd guess he is the one born Edmonton.

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Re: Arthur Lloyd Brace
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 April 19 16:59 BST (UK) »
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my maternal grandfather, Arthur Brace
As there are at least 2 who is named as mother on your mother's birth cert?
This may narrow it down.
There are a couple of marriages one to ? Barker & the other to ? Asher.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Arthur Lloyd Brace
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 April 19 18:55 BST (UK) »
There is a tree on Ancestry with him being born in Watford  1919 as Rosie99 mentioned ...afraid no parents names  are mentioned ..There is also a mention of a Jessie Wilson Malcolm married to a Herbert Colquhoun ...with pictures of them both

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Re: Arthur Lloyd Brace
« Reply #6 on: Monday 01 April 19 19:36 BST (UK) »
He's probably the one born Watford but I would want confirmation.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Arthur Lloyd Brace
« Reply #7 on: Monday 01 April 19 19:44 BST (UK) »
Was Jessie Colquhoun the mother of his child(ren)?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Arthur Lloyd Brace
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 April 19 19:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks all.  Unfortunately he wasn't listed on my mum's birth certificate but he was living with Jessie Wilson Malcolm (mentioned by Rosie17) at the time my mum was born so we're pretty sure he is the father.  My mum ended up being adopted so finding any further info has proved a bit more difficult. 

Jessie Malcolm/Colqohoun did have other children but with Herbert Colqohoun.

A friend of mine has mentioned in the past about 2 different types of birth certificates though - a basic one which is issued at the hospital & where you can refuse to give info and a "full fat mega one" as he puts it where one must legally declare the info.  Does this sound true to any of you?