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Mary Ann Newton
« on: Wednesday 03 April 19 05:35 BST (UK) »
Seeking information as to her parents & birth  probably abt 1812-1815 Cheetham Lancashire.
she marr john Grimshaw 1831 at Manchester, migrated to Australia 1841.
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Re: Mary Ann Newton
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 07:06 BST (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat, sugarwood.

Unfortunately these only start in 1813....

Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1901 (Cathedral)
 (in Ancestry)  Do you have access to Ancestry?

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Re: Mary Ann Newton
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 08:04 BST (UK) »
Have you tried Lancashire OPC (Online Parish Clerks)?

www.lan-opc.org.uk
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Re: Mary Ann Newton
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 08:15 BST (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat

Did they leave for Australia before the 1841 census.  Could you please give some names and dates for any children that were born to them in England
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Re: Mary Ann Newton
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 08:26 BST (UK) »
The marriage was at St John, Deansgate, Manchester on 10 January 1831.  John is a Joiner, and both are of this parish and town of Manchester.

I can't readily see a baptism for Mary Ann in the same parish.
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Re: Mary Ann Newton
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 08:28 BST (UK) »
Quote from: sugarwood on Wednesday 03 April 19 05:35 BST (UK)
Seeking information as to her parents & birth  probably abt 1812-1815 Cheetham Lancashire.
she marr john Grimshaw 1831 at Manchester, migrated to Australia 1841.
Paul.
Hiya Paul - and a warm welcome to Rootschat
5 possible Mary Ann Newton on Lan-opc - could any of these towns been Mary Anns residence
Ramsbottom
Stake Leach
Staley
Chadderton
or is this her - just says Manchester

Baptism: 11 Sep 1814 Collegiate and Parish, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Mary Ann Newton - Daughter of William Newton & Frances
    Abode: Manchr
    Occupation: Cabinet maker
    Baptised by: J Brookes
Cheetham Hill is Central Manchester -
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The Marriage
Name    John Grimshaw
Spouse's Name    Mary Anne Newton
Event Date    09 Jan 1831
Event Place    Manchester, Lancashire, England

if the above is her - she would be 16yrs 3 months at her marriage
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Note - this says 9th Jan - not 10th - where did you get your info the 10th please - mine was Familysearch ?
ADDED -
BumbleB - you say John is a Joiner - that baptism has Mary Anne s dad as a Cabinet Maker ?...possible that William Newton and John Grimshaw worked together ???

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Re: Mary Ann Newton
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 09:00 BST (UK) »
My information related to the marriage is from the image of the register entry - FindMyPast.  Both parties signed, and witnesses were John H..... and Elizabeth Lea, who also signed.


Added:  Image is also available on Ancestry.
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Re: Mary Ann Newton
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 09:13 BST (UK) »
Free Reg offers up only one Mary Ann Newton baptised in 1805 in Cheetham Hill, Lancashire?


Church name   Manchester Cathedral
Register type   Unspecified
Baptism date   16 Jun 1805
Person forename   Mary Ann
Person sex    F
Mother forename   Sarah
Mother surname   NEWTON

Sure there are other Mary Newtons but this one is the only one using the Ann as a middlename.  Only the mother recorded no father
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Mary Ann Newton
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 09:18 BST (UK) »
does it give their ages ?...could Mary Ann be around 15 years younger than John ?

do you think this might be them ?  says she was born around 1802 - 1806 ...but the age of their eldest child fits in with timeframe of their marriage ??
I wonder as he was a Joiner - could he be the Maintenance man / caretaker of this institution

Household
   
Role
   
Sex
   
Age
   
Birthplace
John Grimshaw       M    50-54    Lancashire
Mary Ann Grimshaw       F    35-39    Lancashire
John Grimshaw       M    8    Lancashire
Mary Jane Grimshaw       F    7    Lancashire
Joseph S Grimshaw       M    5    Lancashire
George Henry Grimshaw       M    2    Lancashire
Josh S Grimshaw       M    50-54    Lancashire
Thomas Tudor       M    25-29    
John Jiffs       M    20-24    
Elijah Wright       M    13    
Alice Jeffs       F    20-24    
Elizabeth Barrett       F    20-24    Lancashire
Jane Howard       F    30-34    Lancashire
...........................................................................

Name    Mary Ann Grimshaw
Titles and Terms    NULL
Event Type    Census
Event Date    1841
Event Place    Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Residence Note    Andenshaw Lodge
Gender    Female
Age    35-39
Age    35
Occupation    Null

hopefully Paul will know their childrens names and confirm - or dismiss this record  :)
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