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Offline whiteout7

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Re: Mary Ann Newton
« Reply #45 on: Saturday 06 April 19 07:54 BST (UK) »

2) age shown as 53?  Child at 52 or 53 ?


What child? Very confusing without the child's name and their birth registration in 1863 in Victoria?

I can't find a child registered to Mary Ann and Samuel Evans in 1863 in Victoria at all and that is in the Victorian government records.
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Mary Ann Newton
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 09 April 19 06:00 BST (UK) »

only information found on daughter Lillian Ann,born 1862 Wangaratta died 9mths. Buried 6th April 1863 Wangaratta Cemetery Church of England. No 1 plot 478. Mother Mary Ann buried 28th November 1863 Wangaratta Cemetery Church of England No1 plot 478. Husband/father Samuel also buried 9th March 1881 Wangaratta Cemetery Church of England No1 plot 478c.
I have visited the cemetery & was accompanied to their burial location by a staff member who used both the cemetery layout map & the logged record of their burials for plot identification. There is no headstone in situ. Paul.

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Re: Mary Ann Newton
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 09 April 19 06:57 BST (UK) »


BDM VIC death
1863 / 9468 EVANS  Mary Ann  parents    NEWTON / unknown     
Place of Birth    WEST      spouses name


Is this your Samuel -
3115/1881   EVANS Saml     parents  Judith BEDWILL /  Wm   
Place of death W'ALLA


"...daughter Lillian Ann,born 1862 Wangaratta died 9mths. Buried 6th April 1863 "
Using BDM VIC I am not seeing this birth or death. Can you identify it please.
What is her name at birth. What is her name at death.

".......No1 plot 478. Husband/father Samuel also buried 9th March 1881.."
Samuel EVANS is father to....who?

Can you please list all the information on the 1843 marriage document.

Can you please list all the information on the 1863 death document.


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Re: Mary Ann Newton
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 09 April 19 07:35 BST (UK) »

Ovens and Murray Advertiser 30 May 1863 p4
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/112893629?
...incident involving Samuel EVANS......wife....son James EVANS.....grandson William DROVER.....

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Re: Mary Ann Newton
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 09 April 19 09:42 BST (UK) »
  The death certificate which can be downloaded after payment, will show the following-
Name
Date
Death place
Age
Occupation
Cause of death
Parents' names
Spouse names
Marriage details
Chns names
No of chn

Birthplace

A few of these items are on the indexation, but the full details are really needed through the purchase.

Now, I would say that if Mary was the mother of an infant child, this would be known to the informant who gave the details for the death registration, and therefore, the child will be listed with her other children.

It is clear from the news item posted above by wivenhoe that Samuel and Mary Ann were in Wangaratta a few months before Mary Ann's death death so one assumes the very young infant girl was there too and a part of the family.

"Adopted" or "fostered " children are usually not shown as issue of the deceased.


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