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Re: Different religions for siblings
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 13:04 BST (UK) »
1901, mother Anne is Catholic.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Limerick/Garrane/Knocknagranshy/1489185/

Is this the family?
Annie was already a widow in 1901. Both sons, aged 22 and 17 were C. of I. as was elder daughter, Katie (19) and a servant. Younger daughter, Annie, aged 14 was R.C. I guess that father was C. of I. If he died in younger daughter's early childhood, mother may have had more influence over younger daughter's religious upbringing. On the other hand the parents may have decided that the girls would be Catholic but elder daughter preferred otherwise. As well as searching for baptisms of the girls as babies, look for possible later baptisms.

 "The role of Ne Temere in the decline of an Irish custom regarding the religious affiliation of the children of mixed marriages" by Jesse Buck sets out the argument that the 1908 promulgation of "Ne Temere" the Papal decree on marriage led to a decline in mixed marriages and in the custom of sons of those marriages following the father's religious affiliation and daughters, that of the mother.
The custom may have been in part a remnant of penal laws when Catholics were discriminated against when it came to land ownership, inheritance and professional life.
One study I read showed that children of a mixed marriage were more likely to be R.C. if the mother was Catholic. (I can't recall name of the study or dates.)

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Re: Different religions for siblings
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 13:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks Maiden Stone, that makes it a lot clearer.
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: Different religions for siblings
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 14:21 BST (UK) »
There was a daughter Margaret 1877. It would be interesting to see which church she was baptised.
 I can't see a birth registration for Katie/Catherine or a marriage registration for parents in Ireland. Who was eldest child?
Informant of 3 births was Elizabeth/Eliza/Lizzie Lane, sister. Was she sister of the babies or of the father?

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Re: Different religions for siblings
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 16:44 BST (UK) »
Baptism Fedamore Parish - Catholic - I have translated from Latin
2nd June 1867
Richard - parents James Lane Protestant and Ann Keating. Sponsors Edmond Keating and Margaret Keating
14th November 1868
Elizabeth -parents James Lane and Ann Keating. Sponsors Edmund Keating and Catharine Moloney.

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Re: Different religions for siblings
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 16:53 BST (UK) »
Links for Heywood's baptism finds on Catholic registers

Richard LINK middle of left hand page Jun 02 1867
Elizabeth LINK middle of left hand page Nov 16 1868
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Different religions for siblings
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 18:16 BST (UK) »
Links for Heywood's baptism finds on Catholic registers

Richard LINK middle of left hand page Jun 02 1867
Elizabeth LINK middle of left hand page Nov 16 1868

Thanks. I got them from another site and then had to go and make the meal  :)
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Re: Different religions for siblings
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 18:22 BST (UK) »
Here is James Lane in the Calendar of Wills. Death given as 19th July 1900 but I havenít found the death  :-\

http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014912/005014912_00136.pdf
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 18:29 BST (UK) »
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Re: Different religions for siblings
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 20:05 BST (UK) »
Did you see this Keating family in 1901 in Knocknagranshy? Perhaps they are related.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Limerick/Garrane/Knocknagranshy/1489186/

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