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Offline Flemming

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Abbreviations on RC baptism register from 1850s
« on: Thursday 04 April 19 11:37 BST (UK) »
Does anyone know what 'P.M.' and 'P.F.' stand for on RC bp records? I'm assuming the 'M' refers to mother and 'F' refers to father but could be wrong!

Also, does 'lawful' mean parents were married, and a space mean they weren't?

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Re: Abbreviations on RC baptism register from 1850s
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 April 19 11:43 BST (UK) »
Are these abbreviations followed by names?
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Re: Abbreviations on RC baptism register from 1850s
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 April 19 12:04 BST (UK) »
Patrinus fuit and Matrina fuit

(godfather and godmother / sponsors)

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Re: Abbreviations on RC baptism register from 1850s
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 April 19 12:08 BST (UK) »
Patrinus fuit and Matrina fuit

(godfather and godmother / sponsors)


That's what I thought initially, but Flemming refers to P. M.  :-\

A snip of the actual record might be useful?
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Re: Abbreviations on RC baptism register from 1850s
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 April 19 12:11 BST (UK) »
Patrinus fuit and Matrina fuit

(godfather and godmother / sponsors)


That's what I thought initially, but Flemming refers to P. M.  :-\

A snip of the actual record might be useful?

oh yes sorry.
There you go, that proves my brain is currently fried and I'll go and have a lie down in a darkened room:-)


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Re: Abbreviations on RC baptism register from 1850s
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 April 19 12:16 BST (UK) »

Also, does 'lawful' mean parents were married, and a space mean they weren't?


Not necessarily :-) It could just mean the priest was in a rush and skipped a word or two.

If it says 'olim' (which means 'formerly')and then a surname then that is likely the mother's maiden name, or at least her name before she married the child's father.

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Re: Abbreviations on RC baptism register from 1850s
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 April 19 12:33 BST (UK) »
Hope this comes through ok...


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Re: Abbreviations on RC baptism register from 1850s
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 April 19 12:38 BST (UK) »
Is it the signature of the Priest? Or rather initials?
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Re: Abbreviations on RC baptism register from 1850s
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 April 19 12:38 BST (UK) »
just wondering, where  was the parish?

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