Author Topic: Ancestors who were vicars.  (Read 1369 times)

Offline coombs

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,738
  • Research the dead....forget the living.
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 04 April 19 20:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks. I have a sub to Anc, and I think PCC wills are online there. I did not think to check Anc for any wills or anything. I shall take a look.

I wonder if Isaiah is related to Matthew Sutcliffe who wed Thamazin Warden in 1639 in Heybridge. A Mary Sutcliffe was baptised there in 1637, I think by his first wife Mary.

The William Sutcliffe who was from Grimsby who was posted as a vicar to North Fambridge may have been a cousin of his. His dad was John of Grimsby and Melroyd which was a small part of Halifax, down the road from Rochdale.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 22,711
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 04 April 19 22:01 BST (UK) »
Stan, I get the following message from clicking on your links:
Clergy of Church of England (in England
There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, or search the related logs, but you do not have permission to create this page.



I don't know why that link does not work but if you click on http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nm6/
it should take you to the page.
Stan

Thanks Stan. I thought it must be something I was doing wrong. Iíll try again.  :)

Added: Yes, that link worked (some useful info there too)

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Online pinefamily

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,542
  • Big sister with baby brother
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 04 April 19 23:36 BST (UK) »
Coombs, the Clergy Database is indeed far from complete, and as mentioned above riddled with errors.
If you know where your Isaiah was the clerk, you can do a place search. When you get to the parish, it will give you a list of vicars, and in a lot of instances you will find gaps.
Some of my newly found clergy ancestors are not on there either.
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Carrington, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Bentham, Holloway, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Yorks, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.

Offline ThrelfallYorky

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,400
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #21 on: Friday 05 April 19 15:47 BST (UK) »
Clergy, especially those who died in post, seem quite often to have been interred in the chancel, or at least to have had something like a memorial plaque put there. seems quite logical, to me, actually.
Threlfall (Southport), Isherwood (lancs & Canada), Newbould + Topliss(Derby), Keating & Cummins (Ireland + lancs), Fisher, Strong& Casson (all Cumberland) & Downie & Bowie, Linlithgow area Scotland . Also interested in Leigh& Burrows,(Lancashire) Griffiths (Shropshire & lancs), Leaver (Lancs/Yorks) & Anderson(Cumberland and very elusive)

Offline Andrew Tarr

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,251
  • Wanted: Charles Percy Liversidge
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #22 on: Friday 05 April 19 15:53 BST (UK) »
Clergy, especially those who died in post, seem quite often to have been interred in the chancel, or at least to have had something like a memorial plaque put there. seems quite logical, to me, actually.

... and with their heads to the east end, of course.
Tarr, Tydeman, Liversidge, Bartlett, Young

Offline coombs

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,738
  • Research the dead....forget the living.
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #23 on: Friday 05 April 19 23:18 BST (UK) »
Coombs, the Clergy Database is indeed far from complete, and as mentioned above riddled with errors.
If you know where your Isaiah was the clerk, you can do a place search. When you get to the parish, it will give you a list of vicars, and in a lot of instances you will find gaps.
Some of my newly found clergy ancestors are not on there either.

Thanks. Seems it is work in progress. One day I may get a lead on Isaiah's origins.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

Offline coombs

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,738
  • Research the dead....forget the living.
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 06 April 19 22:40 BST (UK) »
Another ancestor of mine Samuel Bush was the vicar of Ringland, Norfolk. I found his Cambridge Uni entry.

BUSH, SAMUEL. Matric. sizar from Trinity, c. 1596; B.A. (? 1602-3). Ord. deacon (Norwich) Mar. 25, 1602, age 25; 'B.A.', C. of Banningham, Norfolk; priest, Dec. 21, 1603. V. of Ringland, 1605.

Looks like her was a clerk of Banningham in 1603. He was posted to Ringland in 1605.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

Offline jonw65

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,531
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 06 April 19 23:06 BST (UK) »
Will of Samuel Bush of Ringland, Clerk
Norwich Consistory Court, 1626
Copy will here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSGN-M9ZJ-W?i=155&cat=278818

Offline melba_schmelba

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 380
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 07 April 19 11:23 BST (UK) »
Will of Samuel Bush of Ringland, Clerk
Norwich Consistory Court, 1626
Copy will here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSGN-M9ZJ-W?i=155&cat=278818
Jon, I did not know the wills for Norfolk (and presumably the parts of Suffolk covered by the court) were online, quite bizarre that the Norfolk Archives wills page makes no mention of it
https://www.archives.norfolk.gov.uk/Help-with-your-research/Family-history/Wills-and-probate

I've posted a query in the Norfolk forum, perhaps you'd be kind enough to post an answer there
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=811168.new#new