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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 04 April 19 16:14 BST (UK) »
One thing to watch out for with the Clergy Database is that they can mix up the details of two different men with the same name.  I noticed this with a clerical father and son who had identical first and middle names as well as surname.

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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 04 April 19 16:30 BST (UK) »
I can't find anything at all about Isaiah Sutcliffe at the Clergy Database, though I think I read somewhere that it wasn't 100% complete. There are certainly some clergy who appear only as names from bishops' act books or registers, without links to further details, but a site search sometimes finds these. In this case it doesn't, but I'll keep trying.

Meanwhile, a bit more on Isaiah here:

https://archive.org/details/ancestryofwillia00erwi/page/260

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I've checked the lists of entries from the act books etc of the Bishops of London from 1611 to 660, and there weren't any mentioning either Rettendon or Sutcliffe.
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Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 04 April 19 16:53 BST (UK) »
I can't find anything at all about Isaiah Sutcliffe at the Clergy Database, though I think I read somewhere that it wasn't 100% complete. There are certainly some clergy who appear only as names from bishops' act books or registers, without links to further details, but a site search sometimes finds these. In this case it doesn't, but I'll keep trying.

Meanwhile, a bit more on Isaiah here:

https://archive.org/details/ancestryofwillia00erwi/page/260

ADDED:
I've checked the lists of entries from the act books etc of the Bishops of London from 1611 to 660, and there weren't any mentioning either Rettendon or Sutcliffe.

Thanks.

While not definite, I did find an Isack Sutcliffe baptised in 1594 in Rochdale, and he had a brother Nathan. Sons of Henry. Reverend Isaiah had a son called Nathaniel. I have a feeling that Isaiah Sutcliffe was not from Essex. Seems he was in Rayleigh in 1629.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 04 April 19 16:56 BST (UK) »
I have a feeling that Isaiah Sutcliffe was not from Essex. Seems he was in Rayleigh in 1629.

I wondered about that because he was said to have married there in 1629, but I can't see anything about him in Rayleigh either.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 04 April 19 17:16 BST (UK) »
I have a feeling that Isaiah Sutcliffe was not from Essex. Seems he was in Rayleigh in 1629.

I wondered about that because he was said to have married there in 1629, but I can't see anything about him in Rayleigh either.

Perhaps as you say, the Clergy list is not yet complete. He is said to be a Rev in several documents including that page of that book.

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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 04 April 19 17:22 BST (UK) »
"Anyone else come across ancestors who were in the clergy?"

My tree is simply heaving with clergymen; not CoE, however.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr

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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 04 April 19 18:06 BST (UK) »
"Anyone else come across ancestors who were in the clergy?"
 
One of my aunts married a missionary in Kenya (and became one herself); and another married into a line of hereditary protestant bishops in Ireland.  Not first-division stuff, but different .....
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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 04 April 19 18:48 BST (UK) »

Anyone else come across ancestors who were in the clergy?
I have several Methodists including my grandfather but perhaps the most illustrious, although indirect, ancestor was Bernard Gilpin 'The Apostle of the North'. He was a Protestant based at Houghton-le-Spring (after several smaller places) and was arrested & sent to London for trial under Mary I. On the journey he broke his leg and while recovering Mary I died so he was reprieved. I am descended from his older brother William. Another brother, George, was ambassador to Elizabeth I
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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 04 April 19 18:49 BST (UK) »
PCC Will of Izaiah Sutcliffe, Clerk of Rettendon, Essex
19 June 1655
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D799701

Later, connected??
Lease for 9 years
George Carew of London, merchant, to Isaiah Sutcliffe of Reckendon, yeoman
20 Sep 1694
https://www.essexarchivesonline.co.uk/result_details.aspx?ThisRecordsOffSet=1&id=184207