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Re: Manchester "Peterloo"
« Reply #9 on: Friday 05 April 19 10:36 BST (UK) »
There are lots of events being organised

https://peterloo1819.co.uk/

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Re: Manchester "Peterloo"
« Reply #10 on: Friday 05 April 19 16:52 BST (UK) »
Were already 'Peterloo'd' out...

We've got exhibitions:
John Rylands: https://www.library.manchester.ac.uk/rylands/whats-on/peterloo/
Peoples History Museum: https://phm.org.uk/exhibitions/disrupt-peterloo-and-protest/
Manchester Art Gallery: http://manchesterartgallery.org/exhibitions-and-events/exhibition/gettogether/

Numerous websites - You've already been given one here's another!  This one is great
http://peterloowitness1819.weebly.com/ho-42.html
 
Numerous books:
Jackie Riding, Joyce Marlow, Robert Poole, ML Bush, Robert Reed etc.

Unveiling of memorial will be on 19 August - all that information will be put on the Manchester Histories website:  https://peterloo1819.co.uk/

You name it it'll be going on between June and August

However to add to your answer it tended to be weavers & spinners.  This event was organised by the Manchester Patriotic Unit. Men, women and children came from town and villages from all over the NW region.

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Re: Manchester "Peterloo"
« Reply #11 on: Friday 05 April 19 17:14 BST (UK) »
At the date of Peterloo,the corn laws had not yet been repealed,which meant
bread and flour were prohibitively priced for working people.
Also The Chartists (one man one vote.
Secret  ballots etc so men could choose whom they wanted to vote for and not be coerced by their employers tovote for them.)
They joined joined the crowd but were peaceable.
The soldiers were not all fully professional soldiers,I think it was the Cheshire  Yeomanry that acted hastily and scattered the crowd using their sabres.
Had the professional soldiers acted they would have been far less aggressive and more controlled is stated in the reports.

People were chased for long distances,for example all the way to Haslingden
in the Rossendale valley.
Mechanisation was not far off and the hand workers ,cottage weavers and spinners would have been anxious about their livelihoods .
There was a topic on this subject a good few years ago with much information.
It is incredible so many people knew of the meeting and as they took their children it was by no means intended to be violent.
It is a really interesting if shameful part of Manchester ‘s and the surrounding district’s history.A peaceful crowd with just causes run to ground .
There is a list in existence of those injured and their injuries.
A very good read is a very old book. “ The Manchester Man” by a woman a good few years after the event .
Mrs. Linnaeus  Banks.1882.
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Re: Manchester "Peterloo"
« Reply #12 on: Friday 05 April 19 20:50 BST (UK) »
There were half a dozen lists and these ar brought together in Bush’s book I referred too earlier.

My GGGGrandfather was a cotton printer and features in at least three of them.

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Re: Manchester "Peterloo"
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 06 April 19 00:34 BST (UK) »
Maxine Peake was in the film.
There are other threads on RootsChat about Peterloo.
As my mother used to say at election time: "People died so that you can vote." Protestors being shot by yeomanry was par for the course round our way in the 19th century. My mother's 2xGGF was likely present at another incident in Preston 1842, although she didn't know that. Deaths were in single figures on that occasion.

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Re: Manchester "Peterloo"
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 06 April 19 08:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks again all: so much more to investigate!
In the wiki post there were references to a poem by Percy Bysshe Shelley & classical music & music by Tractor & Steeleye Span.
Also I found a site that listed towns & occupations.
http://www.peterloomassacre.org/
The Peterloo Memorial Campaign:
http://www.peterloomassacre.org/names.html
The Peterloo Memorial Campaign: master list of names connected with Peterloo: Name; Place of residence; Town; Occupation
http://www.peterloomassacre.org/occupations_6sept.pdf

http://www.peterloomassacre.org/towns_6sept.pdf
There were some tailors too, mainly on the side of the weavers. I am interested because my gggggrandfather was a tailor in Wainfleet in Lincs at the time, with a wife and children, and I wonder if he heard about it at all and what he thought about it if he did and if it even affected him and his family.

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Re: Manchester "Peterloo"
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 06 April 19 17:16 BST (UK) »

There were some tailors too, mainly on the side of the weavers. I am interested because my gggggrandfather was a tailor in Wainfleet in Lincs at the time, with a wife and children, and I wonder if he heard about it at all and what he thought about it if he did and if it even affected him and his family.

"The Manchester Guardian" newspaper, now "The Guardian" was founded in 1821 in aftermath of Peterloo. Internet search for Guardian founding history will show several sites and facsimiles of early editions.
Copies of ballads were sold on streets. There's a collection in Manchester. There are 19th-century poetry collections of working-class Lancashire poets.
Chartism, trades union rights and repeal of the corn laws were campaigns which lasted for decades. They feature in tv drama "Victoria". Repealing the corn laws in 1840s cost Robert Peel his premiership and split the Conservative party.
Henry "Orator" Hunt became M.P. for Preston for a short time in 1830s. Preston was unusual in that all men over 21 who had been resident for a certain time and were not paupers or convicted felons, were eligible to vote. My Chartist & trade-unionist ancestor lived there in 1840s & 1850s, spending his spare time agitating, demonstrating, striking, picketing and occasionally appearing in court. Karl Marx expected the English revolution to start in Preston. Marx sent a letter of support to the Labour Parliament, held in Manchester in 1854.
There were uprisings in continental Europe in 1830s & 1840s. 1848 was "The Year of Revolutions".
 

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Re: Manchester "Peterloo"
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 06 April 19 18:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks all. I've fixed the typo and will investigate the wiki and maybe somehow the film.
Do people know the occupations and places, or will that be revealed from the wiki and film?
I'm glad it's being commemorated.

They would have been from various trades, but I would think a large proportion would have been cottage weavers and spinners. This was at the start of industrialisation, so some would also have worked on early power looms and spinning frames, but these  mills wouldn't have been as large as the ones built in the latter half of the century. They would have been producing woollens such as 'shalloon' for example, cotton and also 'fustian' fabrics

The 'places' they came from were mostly outside the town of Manchester. They marched a certain route into the town (there is a map of the routes online). Mostly from around Lancashire, and Cheshire but also some from the Pennine border West Riding area.

I have to admit I was disappointed by the recent film

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Re: Manchester "Peterloo"
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 07 April 19 05:31 BST (UK) »
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there is a map of the routes online
Thanks again all. I am very grateful. Could I ask another favour please? Where could I find a map of the routes?