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Offline JeannieR

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National Health Number.
« on: Saturday 06 April 19 00:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Guys..

Simple question. Can a NHS number tell you where it was issued?

I know that  they were not issued until 1948,and the gentleman I am researching was born in 1940, but i cannot be sure where he was born.

I am grasping at straws !!

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Re: National Health Number.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 April 19 02:26 BST (UK) »
Yes but only within limits.
Pre 1991 NHS nos. were based on the Enumeration District code plus the schedule and sub schedule nos. in the 1939 register. Later codes were modified variations. My ID card no. issued in early '48, does not correspond to the ED code used for the same address in '39, but has the same format.

There is a list of codes but I can't find the URL for them at the moment, sorry.
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WILSON; Lancs, Lanrks.
BERRY; Lancs.
BORASTON; Salop, Worcs,
TYLER; Salop, Herefords.

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Re: National Health Number.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 April 19 07:02 BST (UK) »
The National Health Number only applies to England, Wales and the Isle of Man.
Scotland and Northern Ireland have different systems ;D
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: National Health Number.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 April 19 09:03 BST (UK) »
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Re: National Health Number.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 April 19 10:25 BST (UK) »


I think that it may help people longer term to explain that there was/is     

* a National Health Number NHS No issued around the years already mentioned     
( eg mine MABU 99 )     

and     

* a National Insurance Number NINo ( eg XX nnnnnn V  )     
Where nnnnnn is straight numeric sequence number eg 123456       and the quarter of the year ( a/b/c/d ) when issued

Temporary numbers " TN ddmmyy x" where payroll processors were originally told to use
"TN"  ::) date of birth (ddmmyy) plus the single code for sex "M" or "F"       
Originally, meant only to be used to go a little way to help identify a person and until issued with a real NINo     


NINo is(was), in effect, your account number ( special note = including your State Pension Fund )     
with all those implications.



More recent Health Service Numbers have a format of nnn nnn nnnn.







 
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Re: National Health Number.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 April 19 11:53 BST (UK) »
The  NHS used the 1939 Register  codes:

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/1939-register-enumeration-districts

Gadget

Thank you Gadget.
I knew it was there somewhere. :)
Just couldn't remember where. I must be getting old. 8)
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WILSON; Lancs, Lanrks.
BERRY; Lancs.
BORASTON; Salop, Worcs,
TYLER; Salop, Herefords.

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Re: National Health Number.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 April 19 13:29 BST (UK) »
The  NHS used the 1939 Register  codes:

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/1939-register-enumeration-districts

Gadget

Thank you Gadget.
I knew it was there somewhere. :)
Just couldn't remember where. I must be getting old. 8)

Until the 1939 came out, I wondered why my number  was  Zxx!
I can just about remember pre-NHS  ;D


PS - I recall from way-back-when that it was a Denbighshire code
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Re: National Health Number.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 April 19 19:16 BST (UK) »
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The query is not about a living person.



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Re: National Health Number.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 April 19 19:19 BST (UK) »
Both my husband's and mine begin with a Y,which I understand was a London(Middlesex) code.
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