Confusion over place of birth.

[DeafDoggy488]

I've been looking at the censuses of my 4x Great Grandmother- Agnes Gray nee McClounan (the maiden name can varies). In a couple of censuses, it was mentioned that she was born in Straiton Between 1806 and 1811, but when I looked up the birth records and the record that match closely as possible was for a Agnes McLeownan, born in Maybole in 1809.

So I was wondering if it is possible for someone born in Straiton to be registered in Maybole because they fall under the same parish or not? I remember seeing a website that explain how the old parishes worked but I can't seem to find it anymore.

[MonicaL]

Did she die after 1855 to let you try to confirm her parents' names from her death reg?

Monica

[Forfarian]

So I was wondering if it is possible for someone born in Straiton to be registered in Maybole because they fall under the same parish or not? I remember seeing a website that explain how the old parishes worked but I can't seem to find it anymore.

Straiton and Maybole are two separate parishes in their own right. They are not even next to one another because Kirkmichael lies between them. So if the census consistently says she was born in Straiton, then the one baptised in Maybole is probably a different person.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/AYR/ayrparish

[DeafDoggy488]

Did she die after 1855 to let you try to confirm her parents' names from her death reg?

Monica

I think she did die after 1861 as I cannot find any records of her in the 1871 Census. But the problem is I cannot find her death record!

[Rosinish]

Although Forfarian states the different parishes, it's possible she may have moved from her birth place at a very young age & didn't actually know?

Where was she married & where/when did her husband die & was he widowed?

Annie

[loobylooayr]

Hi,

Where have you found Agnes on the 1861 Census please?
1841 -She's in Craigie age recorded as 30  with husband Robert and 4 children.
1851- She's in Riccarton age recorded as 47 with 5 children ( husband Robert is probably the 49 year old farm servant recorded at a farm in Craigie).

There is a death registration at Riccarton in 1865 of an Agnes Gray - but the index has no age or mother's maiden name recorded.  Not to say the original doesn't have relevant information recorded i.e marital status, spouse's name, maiden name,  informant's name.
Not sure if this is your Agnes - I was struggling to locate her on 1861 Census.

Looby

[chempat]

1861
At Monkton, Ayrshire
Living at Adamton Mains
Robert Gray   59
Agnes Gray   51  Ploughmans Wife   Straiton, Ayrshire
James Gray   15
Janet Gray   13
Parish: Monkton; ED: 2; Page: 6;

[loobylooayr]

1861
At Monkton, Ayrshire
Living at Adamton Mains
Robert Gray   59
Agnes Gray   51  Ploughmans Wife   Straiton, Ayrshire
James Gray   15
Janet Gray   13
Parish: Monkton; ED: 2; Page: 6;

Thank you Chempat 

Agnes's age is certainly up and down over the three Censuses
1841 - 30 (most likely rounded down)
1851 - 47
1861 - 51   
I wonder if her age in 1851 has actually been recorded as 42 and mistranscribed (a dodgy 2  ) as 47.

Looby

[Skoosh]

Also common for young women to return to their mothers for the birth. I have a large family from New Monkland with the first-born only born in Lesmahagow at the grandparents!

Skoosh.