Author Topic: John Samuel Brooks Ham b 7 Jan 1867 Westminster, London  (Read 3287 times)

Online ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,124
    • View Profile
Re: John Samuel Brooks Ham b 7 Jan 1867 Westminster, London
« Reply #9 on: Monday 08 April 19 09:45 BST (UK) »
Sticking with John Samuel Hammond, he was accused of incitement to defraud the Melbourne Tramway in 1898:

 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/114044199

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/241858658

and was imprisoned for 6 months
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline minniehaha

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,303
  • "To live in hearts we leave behind, Is not to die"
    • View Profile
Re: John Samuel Brooks Ham b 7 Jan 1867 Westminster, London
« Reply #10 on: Monday 08 April 19 09:47 BST (UK) »
The contributions we have put up would all appear to be part of the same family BUT I'm not yet certain that they relate to your John Samuel......


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

Offline Cockneyrebel

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,493
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John Samuel Brooks Ham b 7 Jan 1867 Westminster, London
« Reply #11 on: Monday 08 April 19 11:54 BST (UK) »
Me too, minniehaha.
Cr
Rosser, Henderson, Chapman, Clarkson, Harper, Healey, Horth, Page, Bowers, Ritchie, Sheen, Smith and Weymark.

Offline jonw65

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,770
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John Samuel Brooks Ham b 7 Jan 1867 Westminster, London
« Reply #12 on: Monday 08 April 19 12:36 BST (UK) »
Throw this in -
The Age (Melbourne), 14 Feb 1889
Marriage.
HAMMOND—BOYLAN. On the 11th February, at Fitzroy, by the Rev. Kinsman,
John Samuel Hammond, of Bedford, England, to Eliza Boylan, of Moonlight.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/196996901

In Bedford in 1881 was John S Ham, 14
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27C-67HW


Offline jonw65

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,770
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John Samuel Brooks Ham b 7 Jan 1867 Westminster, London
« Reply #13 on: Monday 08 April 19 12:44 BST (UK) »
The above was the eldest son of 6 children of John Joseph Ham 1824-1905 and Jane Eliza Waymark 1838-1918.

Parents both died in Bedford. JJ left a will proved 1906
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=ham&yearOfDeath=1906&page=2#calendar

Offline jonw65

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,770
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John Samuel Brooks Ham b 7 Jan 1867 Westminster, London
« Reply #14 on: Monday 08 April 19 12:53 BST (UK) »
No John on birth reg?
March 1867 St James 1a 424
Ham, Samuel Brook

In new index Brook becomes Brookes
HAM, SAMUEL  BROOKES     
Mother's Maiden Surname: WAYMARK 
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in SAINT JAMES'S WESTMINSTER  Volume 01A  Page 424

Online ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,124
    • View Profile
Re: John Samuel Brooks Ham b 7 Jan 1867 Westminster, London
« Reply #15 on: Monday 08 April 19 13:25 BST (UK) »
Samuel Brooks Ham born 10 January 1867 attended Harpur Trust Boys' Elementary School in Bedford from 4 May to 5 October 1875. Father John, 18 Silver Street.

John Samuel Brooks Ham's baptism in 1869 (St James, Piccadilly) gives his birth date as 7 January 1867.
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Cockneyrebel

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,493
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John Samuel Brooks Ham b 7 Jan 1867 Westminster, London
« Reply #16 on: Monday 08 April 19 14:50 BST (UK) »
That is much better and proves that he must have changed his surname at marriage or before, johnw and shaun. It's amazing how these relations changed their names to keep us searchers from finding them!
Thank you.
Cr
Rosser, Henderson, Chapman, Clarkson, Harper, Healey, Horth, Page, Bowers, Ritchie, Sheen, Smith and Weymark.

Offline minniehaha

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,303
  • "To live in hearts we leave behind, Is not to die"
    • View Profile
Re: John Samuel Brooks Ham b 7 Jan 1867 Westminster, London
« Reply #17 on: Monday 08 April 19 23:06 BST (UK) »
Here are the birth registrations in Victoria for the three children of Eliza & John Hammond..........

HAMMOND
Herbt John
Birth
<Unknown Family Name>, Eliza
BOYLAN
<Unknown Family Name>, Jno Saml
SOUTH MELBOURNE
1890
25225/1890


HAMMOND
Daisy May
Birth
<Unknown Family Name>, Eliza Jane
BOYLAN
<Unknown Family Name>, Jno Saml
NCOTE
1895
14849/1895

HAMMOND
Edwd Chas
Birth
<Unknown Family Name>, Eliza Jane
BOYLAN
<Unknown Family Name>, Jno Saml
C HILL
1897
9934/1897

Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.