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Offline JustJean

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Andersdotter in Ramsberg
« on: Sunday 07 April 19 23:12 BST (UK) »
I have new but distant DNA reason to believe there could be a connection between two Andersdotter women but not sure if this can be proven.   

I have a Lovisa Andersdotter who was married to Per Mattson in 1859 and had 5 children - Pehr Eric b 1861, Carl Johan b. 1864, Lovisa Wilhelmina b 1867, Johanna Christina b. 1871 and August Edward b. 1874.  The various records show only a birth year for her of 1835 and the place of Ramsberg.  On 1900 census in the US her birth year is recorded as 1836.  We have never been able to document her birth date or her parents names. 

There is another family that may be related.  The marriage is recorded as Katarina Wilhelmina Andersdotter Birth year 1845.  Marriage date 26 Dec 1867 in Ramsberg, Orebro to Jan Fredrik Bergqvist.  They had 3 children - John Erik b. 1868, Lovisa Wilhelmina b. 1873 and Emma Kristina b 1878  before emigrating to the US.

I know it is a longshot but any possibility of finding any new clues that will connect the two?

Any and all advice kindly appreciated!

Best wishes
Jean

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Re: Andersdotter in Ramsberg
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 April 19 07:23 BST (UK) »
Sweden was still using patronymics at that time.

So we know that both women had a father named Anders ;D
Andersdotter meaning daughter of Anders.

Unlikely that they were related?
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Re: Andersdotter in Ramsberg
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 April 19 09:46 BST (UK) »
I agree with KGarrad that you cannot assume a relationship based on the patronymic Andersdotter. If you want to search further for your Lovisa you might try: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/
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Re: Andersdotter in Ramsberg
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 April 19 11:57 BST (UK) »
Hi
Here is Lovisa Andersdotter born Ramsberg 31 March 1836:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nmn/

and

Cathrina Wilhelmina Andersdotter born Ramsberg 28 April 1845:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nmo/

They are both from the same family.
Household Examination Ramsberg 1847:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nmp/


Ian





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Re: Andersdotter in Ramsberg
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 April 19 14:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the replies!

Ian especially thank you for the links to the images!!

Doing a happy dance here!! :D

Jean

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Re: Andersdotter in Ramsberg
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 April 19 14:55 BST (UK) »
I'm just trying to confirm if these are the ones who emigrated. I'll get hopefully back to you with the evidence.

Ian


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Re: Andersdotter in Ramsberg
« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 April 19 18:53 BST (UK) »
You have previously given me the leaving info for Lovisa and her children in a separate thread a few years ago.  They were the Berggren lot that left Sweden one at a time.  Mother Lovisa and daughter Lovisa Wilhelmina ended up together in Aroostook County Maine.  The hopeful sister to Lovisa, Catharine Wilhelmina and family also settled there I believe.  It may not be proveable with records but I think the DNA results are pointing out possibilities.  I am continuing to look for other family members on this side now that I have some family names to work with.  Will appreciate anything further you uncover on your end as always!

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Jean

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Re: Andersdotter in Ramsberg
« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 April 19 23:50 BST (UK) »
You have previously given me the leaving info for Lovisa and her children in a separate thread a few years ago.

Yes, I thought some of the names looked familiar.

Ian


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Re: Andersdotter in Ramsberg
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 April 19 00:00 BST (UK) »
Here is the Bergqvist family in Ramsberg 1877:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nmv/

This is the Bergqvist's emigrating record from 1883:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nmw/

The family's last record from the Household Examination book is unfortunately missing.
Anyway Lovisa's sister did emigrate to America.



Ian