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Offline Julie Johnson

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Help to find Johnson link
« on: Monday 08 April 19 09:26 BST (UK) »
Hi folks Iím looking for any information on my Granddad Ezekiah Harold Johnson abt 1910 and his sister Constance May Johnson abt 1915. They thought to have been born in the West Riding Yorkshire area. Itís thought that they spent some time in an orphanage in Staffordshire. I never met Constance but Iíve heard she was as olive skin and dark hair like my granddad. I was always told he was Moroccan but Iíve found through ancestry that he and my grandma were Roma. I donít know why it was kept so secret!
Granddad used to deliver clay in the potteries with horse and cart, then started a milk delivery, later became a lorry driver. He was known as ĎDarkieí. He liked to be known as Essey. He married Ivy Sargent in Walsall approx 1935. Then moved to Shropshire. Sadly my family split up and connections ceased.
Does anyone know of him I should love to find their family roots.

Julie

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Re: Help to find Johnson link
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 April 19 10:16 BST (UK) »
This might be the one but no birth record?

Name   Ivy Sargent
Spouse   Essey H Johnson
Marriage   04/1932 Walsall Staffordshire


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« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 April 19 10:23 BST (UK) »
 :) Thank you. Yes this is the family. All mentioned are now deceased. Harold Johnson was my dad. Iím struggling very much to find Essey and Constanceís parents there seems no trace.
There is definitely family connection with names Holland Taylor Smith Wagstaff and Latham.

Julie


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Re: Help to find Johnson link
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 April 19 13:10 BST (UK) »
What information does his (Essey's) marriage certificate give for his father
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« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 April 19 13:43 BST (UK) »
Hi
It looks as though Constance was older 3 June 1909/1910 and died Wolverhampton Dec qtr 1972
Married Dudley June qtr 1930 Joseph Perkins.

Online trees give parents as Joseph and Edith Johnson.
But there is no evidence for that on the trees.
I'm assuming the Joseph bit came from the marriage certs for Essey and Constance.
You may need to get one of them .

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 April 19 13:46 BST (UK) »
For elimination purposes:
Ezra Johnson bap   21 December 1908   Purston-cum-South Featherstone, York, England
father:   John Johnson
mother:   Laura Johnson

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWV2-KB6  (1911 census)

JOHNSON, VIOLET       MAYS  1906  S Quarter in PONTEFRACT  Volume 09C  Page 119
JOHNSON, EZRA       MAYS  1908  D Quarter in PONTEFRACT  Volume 09C  Page 131
JOHNSON, JOHN       MAYS  1911  S Quarter in WAKEFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 91
JOHNSON, LAURA       MAYS  1913  D Quarter in WAKEFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 89

JOHNSON, MAY       MAYS 1918  J Quarter in WAKEFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 57
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Re: Help to find Johnson link
« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 April 19 13:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie and Ciderdrinker
Joseph Johnson was his dad on marriage certificate. Through a new found cousin on ancestry, I know he is the father of Constance, and their mother was Edith.
Jules

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 April 19 14:38 BST (UK) »
Hi guys

We cannot find any records for Ezekiah or Constance that go back to birth. No one would talk about it and itís only recently that we found details about Ezekiahís sister. It all seems so cloaked in secrecy. Joining some dots something must have happened for these kids to end up in an orphanage. Someone must know of Joseph and Edith Johnson.
My granddad was very dark skinned and always looked very Arab like to me as a kid.

Jules

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 08 April 19 16:38 BST (UK) »
If there's a "Roma" link then perhaps posting on the "Travellers" section - scroll right down on the main index, below Armed Forces etc) might produce some useful help? Worth a try.
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