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Offline mlmcholm

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Which William Cottam?
« on: Monday 08 April 19 11:09 BST (UK) »
My journey starts with Mary Cottam whose father was William Cottam as listed on her marriage banns to William Rigby in 1834 Preston. She gives her birth place as Broughton and in 1841 is living with her mother Betty. Mary’s baptism is Dec 1812 at St Mary’s Goosnargh, abode Whittingham. William Cottam died in 1836 age 49, giving his birth 1787/1788. My problem is there are two William Cottam Baptisms for 1788 and two William Cottam marriages to Betty/ Elizabeth, 1809 and 1811. Can anyone please help before I mix the two families up. Many thanks as always.

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Re: Which William Cottam?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 April 19 11:28 BST (UK) »
Banns don't normally name fathers, are these records online as I wondered if they contained any other information
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Re: Which William Cottam?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 April 19 12:14 BST (UK) »
The baptism of the oldest child showing on the 1841 census with mother Betty was in 1810 so presumably the earlier marriage of the two. The baptism of John does however say William & Elizabeth

1841 census details
Betty Cottom   45   
John   Cottom   30   baptism 15 Apr 1810 abode Broughton occ Weaver
Betty Cottom   20   baptism 1819 gives abode Barton occ Weaver
Margaret   Cottom  20   
Robert   Cottom  15   
James   Cottom   7   
Mary   Rigby   25   
Margaret      1   
James Livsey   20   
all born Lancashire
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Re: Which William Cottam?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 April 19 12:17 BST (UK) »
28 Nov 1809 St John the Baptist, Broughton, Lancashire
Wm. Cottom - occ Weaver, Abode Broughton
Betty Crampton - Spinster, Abode Haighton
Witnesses Thos. Swift & Thos. Arkwright
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Re: Which William Cottam?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 April 19 12:37 BST (UK) »
William Cottam   Marriage   25 Jan 1779   Goosnargh   Jennet Moulding
William was a Husbandman (Farmer) Children below

William Cottam   Baptism   6 Apr 1788   Goosnargh, St Mary   William of Whittingham
Others: May be more records not great 1780 - 1790
John Cottam 7 Nov 1779
Ann Cottam 30 Dec 1782
Thomas 29 Apr 1785
Jennet Cottam 31 Oct 1790 & 26 Jan 1794
Cuddy or Giddy Cottam 25 Dec 1796
Richard Cottam 20 Apr 1797

William Cottam   Marriage   26 Feb 1811   Goosnargh   Elizabeth Lofthouse
Witness at above Ann Cottam

Mary Cottam   Baptism   13 Dec 1812   Goosnargh, St Mary   William


Nanny Cotham   Baptism   7 Jul 1811   Goosnargh, St Mary   William

William Cottam   30 Jun 1816   Goosnargh   William Cottam ,Betty Cottam

This record notes Williams occupation as Weaver, sadly the same as the other William in Broughton.
Alice Cottam   18 Apr 1824   Goosnargh   William Cottam ,Elizabeth Cottam


All the records seem to point to Goosnargh, St Mary not Broughton

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Re: Which William Cottam?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 April 19 13:02 BST (UK) »
The baptism of the oldest child showing on the 1841 census with mother Betty was in 1810 so presumably the earlier marriage of the two. The baptism of John does however say William & Elizabeth

1841 census details
Betty Cottom   45   
John   Cottom   30   baptism 15 Apr 1810 abode Broughton occ Weaver
Betty Cottom   20   baptism 1819 gives abode Barton occ Weaver
Margaret   Cottom  20   
Robert   Cottom  15   
James   Cottom   7   
Mary   Rigby   25   
Margaret      1   
James Livsey   20   
all born Lancashire

1851 census for this family
HO107/2266 f334 p28
Betty Cottom -Widow   age 64 born Barton, Lancashire
James Cottom   16   bn Preston, Lancashire
John   Cottom   40   bn Broughton, Lancashire plus his wife & children
Margaret   (Lewis) Dtr Married age 29 bn Preston, Lancashire plus her husband & children
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Re: Which William Cottam?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 April 19 13:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks to both of you, and yes Rosie99, you are right, my mistake, the marriage info for Mary that states father William Cottam, was her 2nd marriage to Henry Hull in 1862. Margaret Lewis was a witness.

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Re: Which William Cottam?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 April 19 14:30 BST (UK) »
Another question mark! There is a baptism for Elizabeth Crampton 1789 St Johns Broughton. If this is indeed my Betty....ahhh!

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Re: Which William Cottam?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 08 April 19 16:41 BST (UK) »
Wm Cottom   Baptism   20 Jul 1788   Broughton, St John the Baptist   John
Abode Myerscough – Only child?

Elizabeth Crampton   Baptism   5 Jul 1789   Broughton, St John the Baptist   Robt
Abode Barton

Wm Cottom   Marriage   28 Nov 1809   Broughton   Betty Crampton
   One of the Winesses was Thomas Arkwright, he had a child baptised in 1815 abode Barton.


      Abode on both Barton. William a Weaver – no other baptism there?
Betty Cottam   27 Jul 1819   Broughton   William Cottam ,Betty Cottam
James Cottam   5 Mar 1815   Broughton   William Cottam ,Betty Cottam




The bride of William who married in 1811, her abode was Whittingham.
Betty Lofthouse   Baptism   19 Aug 1787   Goosnargh    John

I think the main factor is the witness at their wedding, Ann Cottam sister of William.

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