Author Topic: Thomas McDermott - Born Poplar 1871  (Read 2041 times)

Offline StuMacke

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Re: Thomas McDermott - Born Poplar 1871
« Reply #27 on: Friday 26 April 19 14:20 BST (UK) »
Now, am not sure.
It seems to be the right family with Thomas and Julia but the children of Thomas snr are not the same as posted earlier.
This Thomas is born Shorncliffe, Kent with parents Thomas and Elizabeth.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLVN-B6Z

Hi, I've just relooked.  I don't think is the same family as mine.

The ages are all out

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Re: Thomas McDermott - Born Poplar 1871
« Reply #28 on: Friday 26 April 19 14:32 BST (UK) »
I knew it was familiar and realised I had looked at those births with mother Daly before.
Looking at 1911 again, you have Thomas b Gosport so that seems to be your Thomas.
The ages of the girls don’t quite match the Daly girls and you have the name difference.
Do you know anything of Thomas and the girls after 1911?

There is a published tree which shows a marriage for your Thomas McDermott and Mary Ann McCarthy in 1889. There are details of the marriage but no link.
There is little information but has 1911 census details.

GRO births and deaths with those parent names
Timothy b 1889 Poplar
Timothy d 1890 Bromley

Ellen b 1891 Poplar
Ellen d 1891 Poplar

Beatrice Mary b 1894 Ticehurst
Beatrice Mary d 1897 West Ham

Catherine b 1900 Poplar
Catherine d 1900 Poplar

The tree does have further details, including an image,  re Mary Elizabeth McDermott b 1897 but I can’t see a birth.there are baptism details but no direct link.
It’s confusing.

I don't think they're the same and GRO records must have given me a different Mary McDermott birth certificate.  This is what I know:

Great Great Grandfather - Peter McDermott b 1833 - Stocketown, Roscommon
Date TBD Married to Ellen McDermott (born McDonnall 1841, Fermoy C.Cork)
Great Grandfather - Thomas McDermott b 1871 Gosport, Hants (His father Peter was in the army)
1881 - Thomas 10 in Census
TBD - Thomas Marries assumed it was Julie Daly - Now in doubt
1897 - Birth of Daughter Mary - Poplar
1899 - Birth of Daughter Margaret Mary - Poplar (Mt Grandmother)
1899-1915 - Death of Wife
1911 Census - 4. Wightman Street, Victoria Docks, Essex, England. He is now a Widower
1915 - Death of Thomas

Now I thought this Julia Daly was his missing wife, but that is not looking likely.

The names are super similar, but the ages don't quite add up and neither do the children.  So back to the drawing board

Fascinating stuff.  And it's so frustrating as it's not that long ago



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Re: Thomas McDermott - Born Poplar 1871
« Reply #29 on: Friday 26 April 19 16:51 BST (UK) »
when I found 1901 and looked more closely, it became clear that you were on the wrong track with the Daly marriage.

Who reported Thomas’ death?

Finding the girls’ births is proving difficult.

Is Margaret Mary your grandmother?
The tree shows her marrying James Sullivan. Is that what you know?
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