Jane Elizabeth or Elizabeth Jane Barron

[aidansrest]

Hi

Can anyone find the above as a child?

She married Joseph Harrison Tindle in St Michael & All Angels, Sunderland on the 16th September 1878 as Jane Elizabeth Barron, age given as 20 years.
She named no father on the certificate, but one of the witnesses was a Elizabeth Jane Barron.
She appears with Joseph on the 1881 census as Jane E Tindle aged 21 years, and on the 1891 census as Elizabeth Jane Tindle, aged 30 years.
She consistently gives her place of birth as 'Sunderland.'
After Joseph Tindle's death she married John Julius Hansen on the 3rd January 1893 (still awaiting copy certificate), but this marriage was shortlived, and by 1901 she is calling herself Elizabeth Tindle - year of birth given as 1863 (aged 38 years).
She married once more during the September quarter of 1905 (Lanchester RD) to William Gawman, and the couple appear together on the 1911 census living in Burnhope Colliery; she is listed as Elizabeth Gawman, year of birth given as 1861.
She died in Sunderland during the December quarter of 1916 as Elizabeth J Gawman - aged 56 years.

I did think I had found a birth for her as Elizabeth Jane Barron' born 8th July 1860 (mmn Barron), but this child was baptised on the 11th August, and probably born, in Houghton-le-Spring. Elizabeth states Sunderland on every census without fail.

Any ideas??

Thanks

Sue

[Milliepede]

Here's a Sunderland one in 1871 to check out

Elizabeth Barron 9 niece

living with

Christopher S Robson 40 grocer
Elizabeth Robson wife 29

both born Sunderland

[Milliepede]

In 1861 Christopher and Elizabeth have another niece living with them

Harriet Jane Barson 4 - thinking Barson could be Barron?

No those nieces could be red herrings - birth reg for both girls in Sunderland with MMN Gilby

[CaroleW]

Marriage June qtr 1859 Sunderland 10a 503

Elizabeth Gilby/Christopher Stephen Robson

 

[CaroleW]

Marriages Sept qtr 1854 Sunderland 10a 433
Thomas Barron
On same page - Jane Gilby

[wivenhoe]

Is this your family?

Census 1881  @  11 East Cross St  Bishopwearmouth
TINDLE Joseph H     24yr      head     bottle maker         b. Sunderland Durham
TINDLE Jane E         21yr      wife                                  b. Seam Harbour Durham
GARDENER Jane       38yr     general  servant     widow   b Leeds Yorkshire

Census 1891  @  12 Parton Terrace  Bishop Wearmouth Durham
TINDLE Joseph H            34y       head     grocer           b. Sunderland Durham
TINDLE Elizabeth Jane    30y       wife                           b. Seaham Harbour Durham
TINDLE Edith                 11yr      dau                           b. Sunderland  Durham
TINDLE Jane M H            10yr     dau                            b. Sunderland Durham
TINDLE Margaret J           5yr      dau                            b. Stockton Yorkshire
TINDLE Joseph H             2yr      son                            b. Dublin Ireland 

Census 1901   @  55 Villiers St       Bishop Wearmouth
TINDLE Elizabeth           38yr      head     married  laundress     b. Durham  Durham
TINDLE Margaret           15yr     dau                   laundry          b. Stockton Durham
TINDLE Joseph              12yr     son                                        b. Ireland
TINDLE Elsie                  1m      dau                                       b. Sunderland Durham

GRO births

TINDLE, Edith  Harrison             mms     BARRON 
1879  SepQ Sunderland            Vol 10A  Page 538

TINDLE, Joseph Harrison           mms     BARRON 
1880  DecQ Sunderland            Vol 10A  Page 506

TINDLE, Jane  McKey Harrison    mms           BARRON 
1882  MarQ Sunderland             Vol 10A  Page 540 

TINDLE, Margaret Josephine       mms     BARRON 
1885  JunQ  Middlesbrough        Vol 09D  Page 638 

TINDLE, Elizabeth Hope            mms     BARRON 
1891  DecQ  Sunderland           Vol 10A  Page 578

HANSEN, Bessie Alexina           mms      BARRON 
1894  MarQ  Sunderland           Vol  10A    Page 616

HANSEN, Elsie                        mms      BARRON 
1901  JanQ  Sunderland          Vol 10A  Page 712

[aidansrest]

Hi

Yes, those are the births!

I do apologise for the error regarding Elizabeth Jane's birth place, but she does indicate that it is Sunderland in 1901 and 1911, but Seaham Harbour in 1881 and 1891.

She had two children with John Julius Hansen - Bessie Alexia born on the 29th December 1893, dying on the 9th August 1894, and Elsie, born on the 18th March 1901.

I suspect that she and John Julius may have parted company by that time as Elizabeth refers to herself as Elizabeth Jane Tindle on the 1901 census.
When Elsie married in 1917 she named her father as John Juluis Hansen (deceased).

After Elizabeth's marriage to William Gawman in 1905 she took Elsie with her and she is listed as Elsie Gawman on the 1911 census, born Sunderland.

I had also seen the Elizabeth and Harriett Jane Barron children, and the Gilby connection but I too believe that they are not related in anyway to Elizabeth Jane Barron/Tindle/Hansen/Gawman!

Sue

[Milliepede]

She named no father on the certificate, but one of the witnesses was a Elizabeth Jane Barron.

Given the similarity of names I wonder if that was mum - who was the other witness please?

[aidansrest]

Unfortunately it was Joseph Harrison Tindle's younger brother, William Harrison Tindle.

How frustrating!

Sue