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Offline Vance Mead

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Re: Latin will on FS
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 13 April 19 17:14 BST (UK) »
Norf. William Coket, of Ingham, clerk, and William Boneman (or Boueman), of Thetford, chaplain, versus Walter Veyll, of Thetford, draper, and William Mychell, of Thetford, tailor. Debt of 14 marks.
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Re: Latin will on FS
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 13 April 19 17:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks

William Coket, will 1492 Rector of Ingham, is probably the son of Walter of Ingham who is mentioned in JC's will of 1445 as a brother. There are also some late c15th documents at Kew that link another son John (of Timworth) to Walter.

Enough for today especially as Fulham won :)
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Re: Latin will on FS
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 14 April 19 01:27 BST (UK) »
Calendar of Papal Registers Relating to Great Britain and Ireland: vol. 9, 1431-1447, published by HMSO 1912.
Coket, William, clerk
Cocte, William, rector of Livermere and Horningsheath
Volume 9 is on British History Online. I don't know if other volumes are.

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Re: Latin will on FS
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 14 April 19 05:56 BST (UK) »
Calendar of Papal Registers Relating to Great Britain and Ireland: vol. 9, 1431-1447, published by HMSO 1912.
Coket, William, clerk
Cocte, William, rector of Livermere and Horningsheath
Volume 9 is on British History Online. I don't know if other volumes are.


I think this William rector of Livermere must be an error. In his father's will in 1445, he was identified as Walter, rector of Livermere.

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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 14 April 19 12:16 BST (UK) »
Calendar of Papal Registers Relating to Great Britain and Ireland: vol. 9, 1431-1447, published by HMSO 1912.
Coket, William, clerk
Cocte, William, rector of Livermere and Horningsheath
Volume 9 is on British History Online. I don't know if other volumes are.
Thanks, this is interesting although I do not know where this William fits in (yet)

From https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-papal-registers/brit-ie/vol9/pp252-262

1443 14 Kal. May. Florence (f. 282d.)    To William Coket, clerk, of the diocese of Norwich. Dispensation to him, who is in about his twenty-first year, after he attains his twenty-second year to receive and hold any benefice with cure or otherwise incompatible, even if a parish church or a perpetual vicarage, or a dignity etc. Vite etc. (B. and G. de Elten. | B. xx. Valven.)

From https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-papal-registers/brit-ie/vol9/pp222-244

1441 6 ld May Florence (f.307) To William Cocte, rector of the parish churches of Livermer and Hornyngysheth, of the diocese of Norwich, I.U.B. The like. Sincere etc. (B. and Carolus. | B. x. Valven.)

From Cambridge University Alumni 363. A William Cockett was R. of Gt Livermere, Suffolk. Will proved at Bury, Suffolk, Feb. 7, 1479. (V. B. Redstone.)

The will of Walter 1482 shows him as being 'of Ampton', his fathers will 1445 shows him as 'Rector of Great Livermere'.

So definitely 2 different people

I'll do some more digging later

Thanks again

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Re: Latin will on FS
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 14 April 19 19:20 BST (UK) »
A cursory internet search showed other runs of the Calendar of Papal Registers Re. GB & Ire.

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Re: Latin will on FS
« Reply #15 on: Monday 15 April 19 10:07 BST (UK) »
I wonder if this could be an earlier generation of this family, Simon Coket, of Ingham by Bury, yeoman. Possibly the father of Walter Coket of Ingham? Also here is a John Coket, of Thetford, yeoman.


Easter 1416, f 524
Norwich. Robert Brasyer, of Norwich versus William Maweteld, of Thurton, gent; Waren atte Lane, of Ocle, yeoman; John Wolleman, of Ingham juxta Bury, Suff, yeoman; Simon Coket, of Ingham juxta Bury, yeoman; John Coket, of Thetford, yeoman. Debt of 100 shillings from each of them.

Fourth entry:
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H5/CP40no621/aCP40no621fronts/IMG_0524.htm



Also, I don't know if this is the same individual in the Medieval Soldier database, since he is identified only by name:

Simon Coket, Expedition France, 1417, from a Muster Roll

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Re: Latin will on FS
« Reply #16 on: Monday 15 April 19 10:49 BST (UK) »
It is highly likely to be the same family, I have 14 wills on order and I am hoping that they will help sort this lot out. John & Robert are very popular forenames for this family.

I cannot see a will for Simon.

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Re: Latin will on FS
« Reply #17 on: Monday 15 April 19 11:16 BST (UK) »
I'll see if any of them are in The Poll Taxes of 1377, 1379, and 1381, by Carolyn Fenwick.
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