Russagh & Rathaspic, cannot find birth record for Patrick Anthony McAdden.

[dathai]

possibly the best way to sort it out

Patrick McAdden late of Winetown died 1931 Administration with the Will to Bridget McAdden widow effects £835 18s 2d

click on search the online catalogue    you can order a copy
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-online-catalogue/advanced-search/#!/details/110761829

there is also the Administration of the Will of Eliza McAdden spinster born circa 1843 of Winetown to Teresa Murray spinster

her death cert has Patrick McAdden of Loughlinstown as informant
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05058/4385846.pdf

[Sinann]

Wrong family dathai.
I didn't have time today but I think a good scroll through the parish records for the Ballygarran McAdden's is needed.

[MMCADEN]

Know from his HDST that he is born 1947, dies 1931, age 84. Know that his home place is in Ballygarran Co. Westmeath, and that he also has property in Winetown Co. Westmeath.

 

 

So....have you a photo of this HDST ?

First Q. Yes both land and a shop/house. It was on the N4 a bit south of the village of Rathowen.
Second Q. Yes I have the HDST picture, only has his DOD as August 23rd 1931 and location as Winetown. Which places him in the property above, not his original place, Ballygarran.

[hallmark]

Was this Brigid's death cert found?

[hallmark]

If not just go to


https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp


enter Name and Year!

[Sinann]

He had a postoffice! That might explain the move to Winetown
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1931/04894/4325595.pdf
but was this move only after 1911?
Is there any record of him there before 1911?

[Sinann]

Just looking at the map Ballygarran and Winetown are only a spit apart.
There is only a road between them.

[MMCADEN]

possibly the best way to sort it out

Patrick McAdden late of Winetown died 1931 Administration with the Will to Bridget McAdden widow effects £835 18s 2d

click on search the online catalogue    you can order a copy
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-online-catalogue/advanced-search/#!/details/110761829

there is also the Administration of the Will of Eliza McAdden spinster born circa 1843 of Winetown to Teresa Murray spinster

her death cert has Patrick McAdden of Loughlinstown as informant
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05058/4385846.pdf

Some of these are correct.
1. Yes that's PA McA's Will of effects etc.,  to his wife Brigid.
2. No! as far as I know Elizabeth of Winetown is not his direct family, and Patrick of Loughinstown is not he. But these are probably all related to him, somehow.

[MMCADEN]

Was this Brigid's death cert found?

I have not looked for it, because been looking for PA McA baptism. Have looked for his brother James - 1847 - 1850, in both Russagh / Rathaspic, and in Street. Now beginning to suspect he, and his brother James, were not born in the region. Wild guess from LDS source suggests Sligo Co. That will have to wait for another round.

But you guys have been a great help finding new clues and facts I did not have before.

The family appears to have been the father James, his sons James, Patrick A, and Bessy lives nearby or with the family, although there may yet be more children. Still I cannot fathom why there is no trace of the mother in any of these records!'

Again many thanks for ya'lls help.