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Re: George Sinclair and Peti Matiaha
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 18 April 19 06:19 BST (UK) »
Using NZ BDM index I am not seeing the ABEL - HUTCHINSON marriage. Where do you see it?
Where have you found the SINCLAIR - MATIAHA marriage?
Where do you see this name - Elizabeth Peti Sinclair?

Is this your family?

NZ BDM births
1864/7634   DICKINSON   Eliza           parents Elizabeth / Abel
1866/10732   DICKINSON   William   parents Elizabeth / Abel
1868/10951   DICKINSON   Alonzo   parents Elizabeth / Abel
1879/10441   DICKINSON   Allen           parents Elizabeth / Abel
1884/230      DICKINSON       Francis   parents Elizabeth / Abel
1885/4921   DICKINSON   Eugene   parents Elizabeth / Abel
1887/4531   DICKINSON   Bertie   parents Elizabeth / Abel

NZ BDM deaths
1914/9345   DICKINSON   Abel   77Y
1981/37761   DICKINSON   Eugene    born 21 June 1885

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Re: George Sinclair and Peti Matiaha
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 18 April 19 06:54 BST (UK) »

New Zealand 27 Nov 1930 p1
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19301127.2.2.3?

DICKINSON.—On November 21 at the residence of her daughter, Mrs. G. Toms, Opua, Elizabeth, relict of the late A. DICKINSON, Opua, Buy of Islands: in her 90th year.

Auckland 16 Oct 1937 p1
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19371016.2.5?
DICKINSON.—At Iluka, Clarence River. New South Wales, Handford, fifth son of the late Mrs. A. Dickinson. Opua. and loved brother or Mrs. J. Ware, Thames.

NSW BDM death
22425/1937 DICKINSON  William Handford  parents Abel / Elizabeth  @ Maclean

NZ BDM marriage
1882/2559 DICKINSON Eliza Jane  marr.  TOMS   George   
1891/3291 DICKINSON Grace        marr.  WARE James

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Re: George Sinclair and Peti Matiaha
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 18 April 19 09:19 BST (UK) »


NZ DBM births
1881/1961   DICKENSON Claressa Dellia  parents Elizabeth / Abel
1883/17342   DICKENSON George             parents Elizabeth / Abel

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Re: George Sinclair and Peti Matiaha
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 18 April 19 09:21 BST (UK) »
The only info I have been able to find regarding George and Peti are a few family trees that include them so I don’t know how accurate any of this may be. Unfortunately, I don’t know when George died however, I think I might have found some more of their children.

Elizabeth Peti Sinclair
1836-1930

Heeni Sinclair
1838-1918

Ruiha/Louisa Sinclair
1842-1912

Riripeti Sinclair
1844-unknown

also, yes Minniehaha, that is the marriage of George and Peti’s daughter. Betsy/Elizabeth was married to Issac Van Arsdale before she was married to Abel.

 


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Re: George Sinclair and Peti Matiaha
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 18 April 19 09:32 BST (UK) »
Any of the births from 1875 on would include good information about the origins of parents Abel and Elizabeth.

You either accept what you are seeing on family trees........ or do your own research.

You need to see the printout for a birth.

Do you have any documentation for the BDM events in the lives of the people you are researching?

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Re: George Sinclair and Peti Matiaha
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 18 April 19 12:24 BST (UK) »
I don't have anything from BDM concerning George and Peti. I have been trying to gather info on their daughter Elizabeth, but I didn't have her maiden name. Once I found out it might be Matiaha, I had a look at BDM but had no luck.

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Re: George Sinclair and Peti Matiaha
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 18 April 19 21:45 BST (UK) »
Hello again.

With the arrival of keeping written records Maori started assigning two names to their children, especially if baptised. They also developed their own naming conventions, not unlike Scot's with their patronymic maming.

http://www.whakapapaclub.nz/information/maori-naming-conventions/

On that basis do you know of any family links with Waiariki or Rotiti ?

Alan.
Early Settlers & Heritage. Family History.

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Re: George Sinclair and Peti Matiaha
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 18 April 19 22:19 BST (UK) »
Further to reply #10, I think your best option at this point is to purchase the death registration printout for Elizabeth. Providing they were known by the person supplying the information, her parents names should be recorded.

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/

1930/6134   Dickinson   Elizabeth   89Y

[In case you don't have it.......

1914/9345   Dickinson   Abel   77Y]

Minniehaha.


HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: George Sinclair and Peti Matiaha
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 18 April 19 23:23 BST (UK) »
In this list of PAKEHA(EUROPEAN)/MAORI TRANSLITERATIONS

https://www.sooty.nz/Pakehamaori.html

The transliteration for Peti is Bessy or Betty which are both pet names for Elizabeth

Cheers Janette