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Seacombe (7 Stanley Street) - Augustus DeHilgreave Turner
« on: Wednesday 17 April 19 22:04 BST (UK) »
Augustus DeHillgreave Turner
Born 4 August 1883 Birkenhead, Cheshire
Married 22 November 1908 Seacombe, Cheshire (Florence Gertrude Houghton)
Death: unknown

Wife died as a young mother on 17 December 1917 (age 29). Two children (Sidney & George) sent to Canada (Barnados), two (Leonard & Harry) remained in the UK (Harry "Houghton" an adopted son)

My question that I need some help with: when did Augustus pass away, where and under what circumstances. This is my great grandmother's brother (her name was Georgina Florence Turner). Any help appreciated, have not been able trace him after 1921 (including in the 1939 War Register)

Recent newspaper report found: 26 January 1921 - Liverpool Echo

"TOOK JEYE'S FLUID - At Wallasey to-day, Augustus Turner (38), of Stanley-street, Seacombe, was charged on remand with having attempted to commit suicide by taking Jeyes' fluid. He was an epileptic and had been depressed through losing his wife and through being out of work. On promising not to make another attempt on his life the accused was discharged"

Suspicion is he did make another attempt or ended up in a workhouse. His kids never re-united with with him we believe. He did serve in WW1, but came out early due to epilepsy and war trauma

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Re: Seacombe (7 Stanley Street) - Augustus DeHilgreave Turner
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 April 19 22:16 BST (UK) »
Various online entries give his death as 1954 so you may want to investigate that year and see if there is a registration for him then you can apply for the certificate.
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Re: Seacombe (7 Stanley Street) - Augustus DeHilgreave Turner
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 April 19 22:20 BST (UK) »
There is one in Mar 1954 W Cheshire for an

Augustus Turner who is 69 so age doesn't quite fit and no middle initial shown  :-\



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Re: Seacombe (7 Stanley Street) - Augustus DeHilgreave Turner
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 April 19 22:30 BST (UK) »
I have the 1954 death certificate (thought it worth a shot), but the details do not match up (missing middle name, rather distinctive) and age is a few years out (this individual was a few years older). So I had ticked this one off as a no go  ???

Although thinking about it, the newspaper report cuts off his middle name and also gets his age wrong (1921 minus 38 is 1883). The death certificate (1954 minus 69 is 1885), so possible

Death certificate records him as casual labourer, passing away at [Leva?] Hospital, Liverpool Road, Upton by Chester. Not sure where that is exactly (sub-district Chester Castle?)

The fact that I can't find him in the 1939 War Register concerns me however, and makes me question it
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Re: Seacombe (7 Stanley Street) - Augustus DeHilgreave Turner
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 April 19 00:24 BST (UK) »
The Hospital was Deva Hospital and at the time was known as Upton Mental Hospital.

Deva was the old Roman name for Chester.

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Re: Seacombe (7 Stanley Street) - Augustus DeHilgreave Turner
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 April 19 08:45 BST (UK) »
The fact that I can't find him in the 1939 War Register concerns me however, and makes me question it

Augustus Turner is in the 1939 Register, County Mental Hospital, Cheshire Chester RD LGEB, born 1884. Schedule 21 Sub. No. 105.

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Re: Seacombe (7 Stanley Street) - Augustus DeHilgreave Turner
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 April 19 09:10 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has his name as Anpustus. I submitted a correction, which may take a while.

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Re: Seacombe (7 Stanley Street) - Augustus DeHilgreave Turner
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 April 19 09:19 BST (UK) »
If he died in early 1954 he would have been 70 and a few months (71st birthday not until August) so 69 is not inaccurate enough to be a worry.  Looks like the hospital had his age a year out.
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Re: Seacombe (7 Stanley Street) - Augustus DeHilgreave Turner
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 April 19 09:23 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has his name as Anpustus. I submitted a correction, which may take a while.

David

Ancestry has Name:   C??p?? Turner, correction submitted

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