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Dating and Clean up Gray Family England
« on: Friday 19 April 19 15:44 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I have this lovely family photo of the Gray family who lived in Middlesbrough. I would be interested if anyone would be able to clean it up a little or perhaps anyone more of an expert than me might tell me anything we can learn from the picture, the family had a son who died in 1909 and I suspect his mother might be holding a photograph of him towards the camera and I thought this might also be the significance of the empty chair on the right. This would narrow the photo down to 1909-1918 where I think the girls would be too old based on how they appear here. Any thoughts?

Thank you so much in advance,

Dan
Durham: Hall, Wilkinson, Taggart, Woodcock, Watson, Gray, Wood, Cummings, Wheldon, Robinson, Cowley, Perkins, Burnside, Corby
Yorkshire: Petty, Blenkiron, Stabler, Garforth.
Northumberland: Wood, Hall, Wilkinson.
Lincolnshire: Bavin, Cook, Graves/Greaves, Catten
Gloucestershire: Smith, Jones, Wheeler
Ireland: Taggart, Workman.

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Re: Dating and Clean up Gray Family England
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 April 19 19:24 BST (UK) »
My guess would be 1908-12....the photo that the lady is holding looks to be of an adult and most likely female.
It's always helpful to post the whole photo including the back. I'm guessing that it would be a postcard back.
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Re: Dating and Clean up Gray Family England
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 April 19 21:39 BST (UK) »
It is a lovely family photo. I've cleaned it up for you,
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Re: Dating and Clean up Gray Family England
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 20 April 19 00:37 BST (UK) »
One with some colour,
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Re: Dating and Clean up Gray Family England
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 20 April 19 07:22 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Thank you for your thoughts, much appreciated. I don't have access to the photo at the moment to photograph the back as it belongs to a different family member and will be boxed up somewhere. This is a copy I made of the original.  I did however try to scan a close up of the photograph Mary is holding in the photo- see below.

Can I say a massive thank you for the replies and the stunning work on the picture itself, thank you.

Dan
Durham: Hall, Wilkinson, Taggart, Woodcock, Watson, Gray, Wood, Cummings, Wheldon, Robinson, Cowley, Perkins, Burnside, Corby
Yorkshire: Petty, Blenkiron, Stabler, Garforth.
Northumberland: Wood, Hall, Wilkinson.
Lincolnshire: Bavin, Cook, Graves/Greaves, Catten
Gloucestershire: Smith, Jones, Wheeler
Ireland: Taggart, Workman.

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Re: Dating and Clean up Gray Family England
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 20 April 19 07:29 BST (UK) »
How old was the son who died in 1909?   If he fitted in at the beginning of the family, the photo could be of him.   :-\  Hard to tell, but as Carol says, seems to be an adult.
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Re: Dating and Clean up Gray Family England
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 20 April 19 07:43 BST (UK) »
Sorry, he was 19 when he died- of pleurisy and pneumonia in October 1909, there are also two other sons not present in the photo who both emigrated, One to New Zealand in 1909 one to Canada in 1911- perhaps this might help to date it but I thought originally it might have been taken to commemorate their lost son, if so why wait until after 1911 when the other son had emigrated? Then again, where is he if not? I first thought the mother wearing black might be significant but she is wearing black in all the surviving photos of her!

Thank you for all your help, this was the photo that got me into family history in the first place and means a lot to me,

Dan
Durham: Hall, Wilkinson, Taggart, Woodcock, Watson, Gray, Wood, Cummings, Wheldon, Robinson, Cowley, Perkins, Burnside, Corby
Yorkshire: Petty, Blenkiron, Stabler, Garforth.
Northumberland: Wood, Hall, Wilkinson.
Lincolnshire: Bavin, Cook, Graves/Greaves, Catten
Gloucestershire: Smith, Jones, Wheeler
Ireland: Taggart, Workman.

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Re: Dating and Clean up Gray Family England
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 20 April 19 11:09 BST (UK) »
Agree with Carol's dates & would say the earlier of those. The girls pigeon-breast blouses started to go out of fashion by around 1908.
I think your summary is quite feasible so could have been taken after the one son died & the other had emigrated but before the third son went & that's him at the back.
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Re: Dating and Clean up Gray Family England
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 20 April 19 12:53 BST (UK) »

 One colour from me.