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Fisher mariage
« on: Sunday 21 April 19 22:13 BST (UK) »
Good Afternoon
I am looking for a mariage record for Sarah (?) and John Fisher.  We suspect Sarah's maiden name may have been Weaver.  I expect their mariage date would be 1815 to 1825. 
Baptism records for two of their children (Edward) and (John) have been found in the: England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970 RG4: Registers of Births, Marriages and Deaths  Cheshire  Wesleyan  Piece 0573: Bollington, Prestbury (Wesleyan), 1812-1836.  The dates are 1820 - 1830. (On Family Search).

Thank You for any assistance of guidance.

Roger Robineau
Robineau, Cartie, Sauve, Powell, White, Jenkins

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Re: Fisher mariage
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 April 19 23:49 BST (UK) »
IGI  (Family Search)
FISHER John  christened 7 June 1825
Wesleyan, Bollington by Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
parents John FISHER / Sarah

FISHER Edward  christened June 1827
Wesleyan, Bollington by Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
parents John FISHER / Sarah

".. We suspect Sarah's maiden name may have been Weaver?. 
Why are you considering family name WEAVER?


"..I expect their mariage date would be 1815 to 1825".
Why are you considering this range?

Can you give more information about these people....marriages of sons..etc.
 



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Re: Fisher mariage
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 April 19 23:55 BST (UK) »
A bit more detail on the sons from the Wesleyan register:

John Fisher was born at Bollington on 5 May 1825.

Edward Fisher’s birthdate was 15 April 1827.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Fisher mariage
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 April 19 23:59 BST (UK) »
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Fisher mariage
« Reply #4 on: Monday 22 April 19 00:17 BST (UK) »
Are you sure Mary b c 1810 (mentioned on the other thread) is a daughter of John senior?  Given that you say she married George Berry, I wonder whether the following census group is relevant in which case she is of an age to be (if anything) his sister ???  NB If this is connected to the Bollington baptisms then Edward and John jnr seem to have been transposed.

1851 Canada census: Ancaster, Canada West (Ontario)

John Fisher farmer b England 47
Edward Fisher b England 24
John Fisher b England 22
Charles Fisher b Canada W 10
Emaley Fisher b Canada W 9
Sarah Fisher b Canada W 6
George Berry laborer b England 60
Mary Berry wife b England 45
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Fisher mariage
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 April 19 00:48 BST (UK) »
Thank You for the replies.

Here is what i know:
The birth certificate for John jr. states Sarah Fisher Weaver. as the mother  I am harboring some hope that Weaver is her maiden name.

I used 1815 to 1825 as assumed mariage date because i am supposing that John was their first child and they were married shortly before that datte.

Mary , cited in one of the responses is John senior's sister.  She was born around 1810 and married George Berry in York/Toronto in 1834. She died in Ancaster, Ontario in 1866.

John, Sarah and family emigrated to Canada in the early 1830's.

I do have the mariage details for Edward and John Fisher and they were married in Upper Canada.

I hope that clears up my question.

Thank You
 
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Re: Fisher mariage
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 April 19 01:02 BST (UK) »
I suggest “weaver” is entered as the father’s occupation, not a maiden name for Sarah.  The immediately following entry for an unrelated child, although deleted, has “farmer” entered in the same location. (I know this can also be a surname, but there is no evidence of other mothers having their maiden name entered in the register).

John snr is said to be 47 in 1851 (born 1803-4) so would have been too young to marry in 1815.  I agree that John jnr is likely to have been born early in the marriage.

Do you have a death for Sarah in Canada?  Was she also the mother of the younger children listed in the 1851 census (big age gap there)?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Fisher mariage
« Reply #7 on: Monday 22 April 19 01:05 BST (UK) »
Thank You


I know more than i did a month ago, so that is an accomplishment. :)

Roger
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Re: Fisher mariage
« Reply #8 on: Monday 22 April 19 01:22 BST (UK) »
Just asking again about Sarah’s death - which might yield an age for her?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)