Edward Elizabeth Mcguiness, Keady, Armagh

[dathai]

When you get the marriage cert if Elizabeth's father John Grimley turns up to be a shoemaker these might be two sibling's Alice 1864 and Mary 1866 to John Grimley and Mary Cassily both born Keady

Alice
99
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03619/2335615.pdf

Mary
215
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03511/2291061.pdf

[rgferg65]

Hi Dathai thanks for the info, it helped me so I now know they moved from Ireland sometime between 1871-1873, was unable to get exact date could not see post info.
Also where Sarah was born Could not decipher the name, was it Drumgreenah do you know?  is that near or in Keady Armagh?.

[dathai]

Hi
     yes Sarah was born in Drumgreenagh, i am from Dublin so not familiar with the townland's in the northern counties so cant answer your question on that one.

re the marriage most marriages took place in the brides parish so Edward may not be from the area at all

though Elizabeth's father John Grimley appears to be there circa 1864
https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/armagh/derrynoose.htm

interesting to note that their eldest child Margaret was born in Trimdon,Durham 17th Feb 1868 so some toing and froing going on ?

baptism cert number 175 bottom right
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9GY-YW8R?i=128

Catherine married James Quinn in 1903 with a Eugene McGuinness of Burrell St,Kelloe as witness
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9GY-YWR2?i=376

Mariam married John Johnson in 1898
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9GY-YW5W?i=371

Anna married Hugh Halligan in 1893
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9GY-YWRX?i=366

Sarah married Hugh Durkan in 1893
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9GY-YWP1?i=365

[dathai]

Just remembered when a priest writes Owen in Latin he records it as Eugene
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSC2-WX1

[Kiltaglassan]

Also where Sarah was born Could not decipher the name, was it Drumgreenah do you know?  is that near or in Keady Armagh?.

See the info in my Reply #5

[rgferg65]

Hi Dathi Once again thank you for this information, Living in Australia it is difficult to obtain without a big spend. I am having trouble finding exactly where Edward/Peter are buried, they were catholics so I presume they would have been buried at Metal Bridge cemetery/Thinford?, could you tell me how to go about locating them.

[dathai]

I see by 1911 census that Elizabeth is a widow
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWH3-W9Y

so this might be Edwards death in 1908
right hand page 2nd from top
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9GY-YW6L?i=563

you would probably be better off starting a new thread on the Durham board with a link to this one to let those researching know what's been found.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/durham/

[dathai]

As you could see by 1901 census Elizabeth was 56 and 1911 age 74
perhaps this is her death 1921 age 78 which might be more accurate as she would be intitled to old age pension
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVHS-64HX

[aghadowey]

For reference here's the church record of the marriage in 1867- middle of right hand page-
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632549#page/175/mode/1up

You can easily and inexpensively view the civil marriage record online through GRONI's site (General Register Office of Northern Ireland)- you just need to register then purchase a few credits-
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/