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Hi, trying to find out who the 2 soldiers are by getting an idea of the date. Would it be around ww1? The back says ‘my uncle Richard is sitting down’ but it doesn’t help at the moment as we don’t know who wrote the note either! Thanks.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Approx date of soldiers, Richard Kinmel camp North wales American Galleries
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 11:28 BST (UK) »
World War 1

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Re: Approx date of soldiers, Richard Kinmel camp North wales American Galleries
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 11:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks a-l (no closer to finding out who he is but good to know the timeframe).
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Approx date of soldiers, Richard Kinmel camp North wales American Galleries
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 13:18 BST (UK) »
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Re: Approx date of soldiers, Richard Kinmel camp North wales American Galleries
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 13:28 BST (UK) »
These look much more like British soldiers.  Canadian uniforms had collar badges and different tunics.
The badges might be Royal Welsh Fusiliers and the belts possibly earlier than 1914.
Let the experts in !

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Re: Approx date of soldiers, Richard Kinmel camp North wales American Galleries
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 13:45 BST (UK) »
This is a Patagonian family with links to north Wales (Caernarfonshire). Extended family links to USA and Canada.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Approx date of soldiers, Richard Kinmel camp North wales American Galleries
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 14:29 BST (UK) »
Found out who it was, Richard (Ricardo) Jones, born in England in 1881 shortly before the family emigrated to Patagonia. His parents Humphrey and Annie were from North Wales. Not sure how he came to be in north Wales, or the army, though.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Approx date of soldiers, Richard Kinmel camp North wales American Galleries
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 14:54 BST (UK) »
Kinmel Camp is an interesting topic in itself.
Some would say there was something of a cover up. There was even a TV docu drama based on the events there some years ago now.

It was a transit camp for Canadian troops.

If you haven't already found it on Wikipedia try below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinmel_Camp

Then look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinmel_Park_mutiny

BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/wales/entries/cfb526c8-186d-3afe-b3e0-095c8898f868

The riot was a matter of fact and took place in 1919. The camp is just 10 minutes from my house so will be fascinated to see if you can identify them.
Regards
Ian
Barker. N Wales & Cheshire.
Marshall. N Wales & Staffordshire.
Ellis. N Wales plus...
Parry. N Wales plus...
Unitt. Staffordshire.
Clark. Staffordshire & Worldwide.

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Re: Approx date of soldiers, Richard Kinmel camp North wales American Galleries
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 14:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the links Ian, will look at them now.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....