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Devereux, Tobin Morrissey
« on: Tuesday 23 April 19 04:09 BST (UK) »
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Michael Devereux  & Ellen (nee Hickey they had 12 children . Unsure who Michael's parent are however his mom may have been a Ellen Heffernan
Michael Tobin & Bridget (nee Devereux).  They had 7 children, and had a store/bar in New Inn
Edward Morrissey  & Margaret (nee Devereux) they had 7 children
Peter Devereux  & Ellen (nee Pendergast) who had 11 children.

Most of the family was in Cashel, New Inn, Kilpeak, Clogheen, Rosecrede,  County Tipperary. I am trying to find information on the above mentioned children of the parents listed.  The families were large so somewhere someone as information to full in blanks. Any help direction appreciated

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Re: Devereux, Tobin Morrissey
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 07:21 BST (UK) »
You haven't given any dates.
How are these couples related to each other?
I did find a Peter Deveraux and Ellen Pendergast marriage in 1878, is it the correct couple.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1878/11093/8059849.pdf

Edward Morrissy and Margaret Deveraux 1886. Is this the correct couple?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10829/5949772.pdf

Have you found all these couples in the 1901 or 1911 census?
If you have links to the census would help.

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Re: Devereux, Tobin Morrissey
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 08:14 BST (UK) »
Family Information on..
Michael Devereux  & Ellen (nee Hickey they had 12 children . Unsure who Michael's parent are however his mom may have been a Ellen Heffernan
Michael Tobin & Bridget (nee Devereux).  They had 7 children, and had a store/bar in New Inn
Edward Morrissey  & Margaret (nee Devereux) they had 7 children
Peter Devereux  & Ellen (nee Pendergast) who had 11 children.

Most of the family was in Cashel, New Inn, Kilpeak, Clogheen, Rosecrede,  County Tipperary. I am trying to find information on the above mentioned children of the parents listed.  The families were large so somewhere someone as information to full in blanks. Any help direction appreciated
If you know the names of those children please tell us. The more information you tell us the easier it will be to help you with information or advice where to search next.
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Re: Devereux, Tobin Morrissey
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 08:25 BST (UK) »
 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Knockgraffon/Tooloone/815996/

Peter and Ellen Devereux with 7 children   1911 census        11 children born, 8 living

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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Knockgraffon/Newinn_Town/816019/

Tobin family 1911 census   Bridget  widow with 5 children  Shopkeeper   7 children born, 6 living

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Golden/Ballinlough/831487/

Margaret and Edward Morrissey with 3 children  census 1911        4 children born, 3 living


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Re: Devereux, Tobin Morrissey
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 23:25 BST (UK) »
Michael and Ellen are the parents. The others are their children. Yes I have the 1901 and 1911 census. I even found marriage information I need to go further back. I have the birthdays of all of Michael and Ellen's children. However Michael (jr) born 1842 died before 1899 and I can't find death info
John born 1846 died in infancy before 1850 which I can't find and Philip born 1855 died in infancy before 1859.
Son Peter and wife Ellen Pendergast had 11 kids, 4 of which I have no death dates.
I have copies of letters written by siblings as from the late 1800/early 1900 which say things like 1 son joined army  in war 1918 wounded in France sent home them back again.

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Re: Devereux, Tobin Morrissey
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 23:35 BST (UK) »
Civil registration began in 1864 and before that you are looking to Parish records.
Deaths or Burials are rarely recorded in parish records.
Have you checked parish records for baptisms?

Did any of the children die after 1864?
Civil records are here https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

You mention four death dates for  children of Peter and Ellen - what are their names?
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Re: Devereux, Tobin Morrissey
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 23:37 BST (UK) »




New Inn and Knockgraffon  https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0274





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Re: Devereux, Tobin Morrissey
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 23:48 BST (UK) »




http://www.rootschat.com/links/01np2/  C Reg  Birth, Marriage and Death results for Devereux


Then go to https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php   select Tipperary  fron dropdown box and get the Districts and look up those districts from the List on left on c reg results





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Re: Devereux, Tobin Morrissey
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 23:49 BST (UK) »
Yes I've checked parish records, the missing death dates for Michael & Ellen  kids were between 1850 and 1859.
Peter &Ellen kids who I'm missing are Ellen (Lillie) born 1888 unknown death,
John born 1890 unknown death
Mary born 1898 unknown death
Patrick (2nd of that name) born 1903 unknown death