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Coat of Arms
« on: Tuesday 23 April 19 10:46 BST (UK) »
Hi all.
First off, what a packed site.
I look forward to perusing it.
I have had a key holder for a year or so and I'm trying to find out it's origin of the coat of arms..
It says 'Made in WestGermany' if that's any clue?
Anyone know what, where, why, or point me in the right direction?
Cheers

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Re: Coat of Arms
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 11:07 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Welcome to RC! It is indeed a lovely website.

Your key-holder bears the Bavarian coat of arms:



Seeing as it says "Made in West Germany", it is probably pre-1989 (at the very least).  :)

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Karen

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Re: Coat of Arms
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 11:17 BST (UK) »
Seeing as it says "Made in West Germany", it is probably pre-1989 (at the very least).  :)

West Germany existed (as a separate country) from 1949 to 1990 according to Wikipedia, so that narrows it down a bit more :)

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Re: Coat of Arms
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 14:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the quick replies.
That has saved some of my hair (what's left) being pulled out!
Really interesting.
Now I wonder what establishment it would have been in.
Hotel perhaps?
Would have been a small one though.
Or perhaps a government building.
At least I can search in the right direction now.
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 April 19 08:18 BST (UK) »
I worked in Eggenfelden , Bayern for 3 years ...local hotels / guesthouses / bars have a Stamtiche - which is a table for "locals only" - ie - tourists and non locals don't sit there ...the Stamtiche also had a Newspaper Rack and Coathanger diamond shaped on the wall behind the Stamtiche ...MOST of these had the Coat of Arms on them - VERY PROUD of being Bayerisch - they would say "Ich nicht bin Deutch,Ich bin Bayerische "  I am not German ,I am Bavarian ...they don't say "Guten Morgen " - they say "Tisgut"  as a hello - wonderful friendly people  :)
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 April 19 10:47 BST (UK) »
Gr Gott!  ;D

I've always found the Bavarians to be very friendly, too. My (English) brother-in-law lives there and hates them! Maybe it's a case of "Wie man in den Wald hinein ruft, so schallt es heraus"...

As garstonite says, they certainly are fiercely proud of being Bavarian. There have been many attempts in the not-so-distant past to make Bavaria an independent state and the number of Bavarians in favour of this is, apparently, rising again.

Whatever. I've been trying to find something similar to this key case online and have drawn an absolute blank. The funny thing is, there is something in the back of my mind telling me I have seen something similar. I just can't think where!  ::)

The fact that it has 2 holes in the upper edge should also tell us something. If the case was designed to hang on the wall when it was not in use, I would expect it to have one hole. Two holes would suggest that a cord would be threaded through the holes in order for it to be hung on e.g. a belt, i.e. the user would have it on their person.

I'll keep looking.  :)

Pfiat di!
Karen


 


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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 April 19 11:48 BST (UK) »
Karen, I disagree with you on several counts. Firstly I think it has two holes so that it hangs more securely on a wall and doesn't swing to one side. Secondly it looks far too rigid for somebody to wear on a belt. I also think it is far too large to hang on a belt.

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 April 19 12:55 BST (UK) »
Karen, I disagree with you on several counts. Firstly I think it has two holes so that it hangs more securely on a wall and doesn't swing to one side. Secondly it looks far too rigid for somebody to wear on a belt. I also think it is far too large to hang on a belt.

Martin

I'm obviously lacking your powers of sizing unknown objects without the aid of reference items or I'm overlooking the presence of a tape measure in the photos...  ;)

Maybe Paradigmshift would be so kind as to let us know how big this fascinating piece of Bavarian history is.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 April 19 14:11 BST (UK) »
Seeing as it says "Made in West Germany", it is probably pre-1989 (at the very least).  :)
West Germany existed (as a separate country) from 1949 to 1990 according to Wikipedia, so that narrows it down a bit more :)

It's only just struck me that if it says that in English, it's possibly a souvenir or intended for export.

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