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Re: Surnames Beaney, Jones, Ripley
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 27 April 19 07:49 BST (UK) »
You have put:
'wondered if anybody had some initial advice or tips for me before I delve into what I can only imaging might be a Well of innacurate recordings/nicknames/constantly changing locations/multiple names etc etc'

Initial advice, Get all certificates so you can work back accurately. 

Where were 'John Beeney 1896-1954 and Ada Beeney nee Jones. 1897-1958' living when they died?

Added:
If the person supplying the age at death information got the age wrong, you have difficulties straightaway.

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Re: Surnames Beaney, Jones, Ripley
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 27 April 19 07:57 BST (UK) »
They were living in Northfleet

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exactly, there seems to be so many innacuracy’s in their documents. One of them is wrong. One could be correct. Who knows which one.  ???

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Re: Surnames Beaney, Jones, Ripley
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 27 April 19 08:07 BST (UK) »
1939 register shows what they claimed to be their birth dates - most accurate?

The year on the register may be out, but the actual day and month is more likely to be correct, perhaps.


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Re: Surnames Beaney, Jones, Ripley
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 27 April 19 08:17 BST (UK) »
Working through free 1939, John has dates 22/07/1890, living with Asda, dates 26/07/1890.

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Re: Surnames Beaney, Jones, Ripley
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 27 April 19 11:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Shaun

I have many records reguarding the Beaneys, the name is spelt at least about five different ways, I researched through the old newspapers, I sujest you join up to the newspaper archive web site it is online, it dosent cost much, I find names by using storys from the past, if you would like to know of the Beaneys I will tell of their history, if you are just looking for dates like a cross word that is fine I understand the enjoyment in such things, i have put a few storys on next to show you how I use the records to then move between familys, they may not be who you wish to link up to or find but I put these few storys on to just show you as an example of how it is done, the result may be wrong but the method is right, I do hope you find what you are looking for.


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I have read that the  Emperor Caesar Augustus errected a monument in the center of Rome known as the “golden milestone” all distances in the Roman empire were measured from this point. It is found in The  Roman Forum today, I have been there, some writers now say the distances were measured from the City gates and maybe the stone came later. 

About 300 B.C. the Republic and later the Empire began building long straight roads. 29 major roads, and they connected all 113 of the empire’s provinces, they were considered as one of the reasons behind the strength of the Roman Empire, with Rome itself at the center, that is most of  Europe, the Near East, and North Africa, well, no matter where you was or how far all roads did lead to Rome, the saying as come to be known as
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Shaun, All roads do lead to Rome, Rome is everywhere, can you feel it.
 
“To cross the Rubicon”   

  Julius Caesar in 49 B.C. was a general of an army of the Republic, it is wrote that he was the governor of Gaul, he expanded the borders of the Republic into France, Spain, and Britain, he was a popular General, he wanted to enter Rome with his armies, this act thoe was forbidden by Roman law, it is also wrote when he reached the river Rubicon, the last boundary before the old Italy, well it is wrote he paused and contemplated the future, if he brought his army from Gaul into Italy, he would be violating the authority of Rome and he would be an enemy of the state of Rome, it was an important decision, it is said Caesar declared in Greek and in a loud voice, "let the die be cast!"  and then they crossed the Rubicon, then there was a Roman civil war, when all was done Julius Caesar was the winner, it was the end of the Roman Republic and the start of the Roman Empire. 
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Re: Surnames Beaney, Jones, Ripley
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 27 April 19 11:53 BST (UK) »
Friday 15 December 1939
 Chatham News
  Kent 

Straying Horses.— Five fines of 5s were miposed on four defendants at Chatham Police Court on Wednesday, for allowing horses to stray on Capstone-road. Luton, on different dates in November.The defendants, all of whom lived at the Encampment, Ash Tree-lane, Chatham, were Amy Newland, Walter Eastwood, Ada Beaney and Faith Butler. Butler was fined for two ofences on different dates. Only she and Eastwood appeared in Court
 
Friday 16 June 1939
 Chatham News
  Kent

Horses Cause Trouble. —“ These people are causing considerable trouble to the military authorities,” remarked Supt. H. R. Webb, at Chatham Police Court, on Wednesday, when five inhabitants of the Ash Tree-lane Encampment pleaded guilty to allowing horses to graze on War Department land at Gillingham, on May 31st. The defendants were Albert Newland, Faith Butler, Betsy Emmett, Ada Beaney, and Betsy Eastwood. Evidence was given by Captain J. D. Patullo, and fines were imposed as follow:—Newland, Butler, and Eastwood, £1 each; Emmett and Beaney, 10s. each
 
Friday 19 February 1932
 Kent & Sussex Courier
  Kent 

POACHING. Walter Eastwood (20) and Walter Eastwood (18), both of Trottescliffe. pleaded guilty to poaching the land of Sir Edgar Waterlow, of Wrotham, on February Ist. George Hassell, gamekeeper, etated that the men had a ferret and seven nets, and on his way along he could see some rabbits had been caught. ‘‘One of the defendants broke off a stick and started throwing his weight about with it.” The elder Eastwood was fined £1 and the other 10s
 

 Friday 14 August 1908
  Kent & Sussex Courier
   Kent

 STRAY HORSE. For allowing a horse to stray on the highway at East Hailing, on July 28th, Walter Eastwood, a gipsy, was fined 5s and costs. The police stated that the defendant had two previous convictions recorded against him this year 
 

   Friday 11 November 1927
  Sevenoaks Chronicle and Kentish Advertiser
  Kent

 ASSAULTS. Harry Matthews, of Aylesford, was fined £4 for assaulting a lad named Alfred J. Lavender and Walter Eastwood, a dealer, was fined £1 for assaulting another dealer of the same name at Leybourne 
 

Friday 20 July 1951
  East Kent Gazette
  Kent 

 
 - A sudden peal of thunder brought about a dramatic chase in Rainhant High Street on Thursday last week, when a log dealer's horse and cart bolted in Orchard Street.
 Mr. W. Eastwood. the dealer. of Ash Tree Lane. Chatham. was colecting logs when his frightened  horse shed its load and bolted towards the High street. Mr. Eastwood grabbed for the rein, but missed, and was struck by the wheel of the cart as it sped towards the town. The horse obviously knew its own way home, for turned left at the bottom of Orchard Street and galluped in the direction of Chatham. Several hundred yards further along the main road. the runaway horse
and cart were seen and  stopped by a member of the Kent hire Brigade. Mr. Eastwood sustained cuts and bruises
 
  Friday 22 January 1954
  Bognor Regis Observer
  Sussex

 Everyone Knew Mrs. Jones A familiar figure to thousands of Bognor Regis residents and holiday-makers, Mrs. Ada Jones, of 19, Glebe Road, Worthing, died last week. Most of her acquaintances in the town knew her only by the name of Rosie. For nearly 16 years Mrs. Jones sold flowers from her pitch in High Street, travelling by train from her home with a pram-lull of flowers every week-day morning. There were many regulars among her customers. Housewives who used to make a point of seeing her after amorning's shopping will miss her cheery greeting. So will manyhusbands whose habit it was to call on her when they wanted a bouquet for their wives. At Worthing, where Mrs. Jones was a flower seller before she startedto sell in Bognor, she left a thriving family business. Her husband is a flower seller during the summer and during the Winter he deals in logs and firewood Their  children. most of them grown up, also sell flowers. The funeral was at Worthing on Monday

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Re: Surnames Beaney, Jones, Ripley
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 27 April 19 14:53 BST (UK) »
You definitely need to start with the marriage certificate of John Beaney and Ada Jones or you could end up going down completely the wrong road.   Specifically because a John Beaney married an Ada Eastwood in 1910 Luton, Kent and have seen a tree on Ancestry which claims this John was the son of Job and Phoebe - see how difficult it can be without definite proof?

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Re: Surnames Beaney, Jones, Ripley
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 28 April 19 20:47 BST (UK) »
We have their Marriage Certificate Woohooo.

Ok so John and Ada Beeney were married on June 5th 1916.
In Christ Church, in the parish of Luton, Kent.

Both were 19years old.
John was a hawker
Residence at time of marriage was Ash Tree Lane.

Johns father was also called John Beeney (Hawker)
Ada's father was called Obed Jones.(Hawker)


Witnesess were Louisa Eastwood and Samuel Ripley.

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Re: Surnames Beaney, Jones, Ripley
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 28 April 19 23:17 BST (UK) »
Have you found possible births for them, or in 1901 or 1911 census? (1896 or 1897 born)

Those ages do not agree with 1939.

Interesting names of witnesses.