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FRANCE: Parishes
« on: Sunday 28 April 19 16:47 BST (UK) »
I am researching two of my LABRIE families who immigrated to Quebec from France in the mid 1600s. I know that one of the lines came from St-Germain-Laxis in the Seine-et-Marne department, Ile de France. I also have a marriage document (Jean-Baptiste Mignault/ Marie Boucher, married 1689 in Quebec) in which the priest indicates that Jean's parents, Louis Mignot/ Jeanne Charon came from
St-Germain-de-la-Cime in Brie, Sens Bourgogne. I have spent considerable time trying to find this particular parish without any success. I suspect that the entry (St-Germain-de-la-Cime) was an error and that it should have read 'St-Germain-Laxis'.
Can anyone confirm that St-Germain-de-la-Cime did or does exist?
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Re: FRANCE: Parishes
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 April 19 07:55 BST (UK) »
Hello, can you make this point clear : where does the info " st germain de la cime, Sens, Bourgogne" come from? ( I presume it is from a paying site)
I can.t find any st germain de la cime in France. But it sounds like st germain laxis.

ADDED: the on-line parish registers of St Germain Laxis begin in 1669.
There were some Mignot in the village, I found the baptism of a Marie Mignot in 1671 page 10 , daughter of Louis and Jeanne Cha..ron (u)

There is a thread on filae ( is it you ?), and some trees on the net , same infos as yours.

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Re: FRANCE: Parishes
« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 April 19 08:57 BST (UK) »
http://mairiestgermainlaxis.free.fr/histoire_048.htm

http://www.seine-et-marne-quebec.fr/seineetmarne/
Le château de Vaux-le-Vicomte Chef d’œuvre de trois artistes réunis par un riche mécène, Nicolas Fouquet : Louis Le Vau est l’architecte, Charles Le Brun, le décorateur et André Le Nôtre le paysagiste. Le 17 août 1661, après une réception trop brillante à son goût Louis XIV confirme l’arrestation du surintendant des Finances Fouquet sur les accusations de Colbert. Il engagea les artistes de Vaux le Vicomte pour le château de Versailles…Prés de Vaux le Vicomte, le village de Saint-Germain-Laxis a vu naître Jean Mignot qui épouse en 1689 Marie Boucher à Château-Richer près de Québec. Il vécut ensuite à Rivière Ouelle jusqu'à sa mort en 1735.

http://seine-et-marne-quebec.fr/data/documents/circuitsudfiniavec2018.pdf

https://gw.geneanet.org/gwinkelmuller?n=migneault&oc=&p=jean+baptiste
and
https://gw.geneanet.org/rdallaire?fc=geneastar&idgeneastar=gntstar672&n=mignot&oc=&p=jean+baptiste

someone else found Marie
https://gw.geneanet.org/patriceeee?lang=fr&pz=patrice+jacques+raymond&nz=langer&p=jean+baptiste&n=migneault



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Re: FRANCE: Parishes
« Reply #3 on: Monday 29 April 19 09:13 BST (UK) »
If you want to be precise :
St germain Laxis is NOWADAYS in the departement of SEINE ET MARNE which is part of the region Ile-de-France.

in 1635 it was part of the diocese of Sens.

but it makes no sense to say nowadays  : st germain de laxis, Brie, Sens , Burgundy or Bourgogne

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Re: FRANCE: Parishes
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 April 19 09:17 BST (UK) »
Marie MIGNOT to Louis and Jeanne CHAILLOU? CHAIBRON?

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Re: FRANCE: Parishes
« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 April 19 09:31 BST (UK) »
https://gw.geneanet.org/skylar?n=mignot+mignault+migneault+dit+labrie&oc=&p=louis+joseph
 this one seems to have the parents of Jean baptiste Mignot but It could be worth trying to contact the owner .

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Re: FRANCE: Parishes
« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 April 19 09:33 BST (UK) »

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Re: FRANCE: Parishes
« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 April 19 17:49 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for all the responses.
The information of St-Germain-de-la-Cime came from the following marriage record which I will include here as an attachment- hope it works.
      Marriage record : Jean Mignot/ Marie Boucher, 1689, Quebec
      Jean, son of Louis Mignot/ Jeanne Charon
      Marie, daughter of Pierre Boucher/ Marie St-Denis
      Jean Mignor/ Marie Boucher – marriage record states that he was the son of
      Louis/ Jeanne Charon of St Germain de la Cime en Brie Sens Bourgogne
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Re: FRANCE: Parishes
« Reply #8 on: Monday 29 April 19 21:37 BST (UK) »
I hope you can decipher the attachment indicating St Germain de la Cime.
New information for me is that Marie, born 1671 was a sister.
Jean (or Jean-Baptiste) was born either 1660 or 1665 (as per other researchers); would you be able to check that in the records you accessed for Marie's birth.
Apparently Jean's father, Louis, died 7Nov 1689, St Germain Laxis.
His son Jean immigrated to Quebec in 1688 and was known as 'Mignault Labrie'. He married Marie-Sainte Boucher 7Nov 1689, Chateau Richer Quebec.
The more I research this, the more I think there was an error in the document. It does clearly indicate St-Germain de la Cime en Brie eveche de Sens en Bourgogne, but I have not found any referral to that place in any other location.
Your other reference indicating that Jean Mignot was born in St-Germain-Laxis seems to confirm that his parents married and lived there.
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