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Re: Facts that don't stack up & reading between lines - help me solve a mystery!
« Reply #27 on: Monday 29 April 19 17:53 BST (UK) »
Oh thanks avm. I was just hoping that it was our couple.
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Re: Facts that don't stack up & reading between lines - help me solve a mystery!
« Reply #28 on: Monday 29 April 19 18:03 BST (UK) »
I do think it would be helpful if we could fill in the huge gap in Florence's early life.  So far we have:

1871: Born & baptised in Camden Town.
1896: Married George Staniforth in Portsea.

Where was she in 1881/1891?  Had William died in 1872, as we think?  Where was her mother?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Facts that don't stack up & reading between lines - help me solve a mystery!
« Reply #29 on: Monday 29 April 19 18:25 BST (UK) »
In 1881 she was with the relatives in Wiltshire.reply #4
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Re: Facts that don't stack up & reading between lines - help me solve a mystery!
« Reply #30 on: Monday 29 April 19 18:38 BST (UK) »
In 1881 she was with the relatives in Wiltshire.reply #4

Oops.  So she is!
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Facts that don't stack up & reading between lines - help me solve a mystery!
« Reply #31 on: Monday 29 April 19 19:02 BST (UK) »
it Is difficult as we are assuming that Kate Richards Adams is Jane Richards  :-\

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1875 Melksham Austin Meldon and Jane Richards
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Re: Facts that don't stack up & reading between lines - help me solve a mystery!
« Reply #32 on: Monday 29 April 19 19:51 BST (UK) »
I thought the Jane=Kate theory had been based on the fact that Jane had been found in London in 1871 and until this thread Kate had not, so it was thought/hoped they might be one and the same?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Facts that don't stack up & reading between lines - help me solve a mystery!
« Reply #33 on: Monday 29 April 19 20:26 BST (UK) »
I thought the Jane=Kate theory had been based on the fact that Jane had been found in London in 1871 and until this thread Kate had not, so it was thought/hoped they might be one and the same?

On the other hand, a Jane Adams marries John McAuley, Dec qtr 1873 Medway, and turns up in subsequent Kent censuses with him showing a birthplace of Melksham c1847-9, and a clutch of children with mmn Richards.

E.g. Mary Alice McCauley, mmn Richards, Sep qtr 1874 Medway.

So I take it all back :). Looks entirely possible that Kate was really the daugher Jane belonging to that Melksham family, and Florence was their granddaughter rather than their niece.

No doubt the 1873 marriage certificate would be illuminating as to who her father was.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Facts that don't stack up & reading between lines - help me solve a mystery!
« Reply #34 on: Monday 29 April 19 21:01 BST (UK) »
Super find  :)

I canít see them in 1881 can you?

1891 662/61
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Re: Facts that don't stack up & reading between lines - help me solve a mystery!
« Reply #35 on: Monday 29 April 19 21:26 BST (UK) »
1881: RG11/890/71/31 :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)