Phoebe Shaw... what became of her?!

[bitzar]

Team

I have Phoebe SHAW baptised at Worksop Nottinghamshire on 11 Dec 1828 to George SHAW and Hannah PALMER.

On the 1841 she is with her maternal grandmother Dorothy PALMER aged 10.

On the 1851 she is with her brother John SHAW and his wife Alice.

On 12 Mar 1862 there is a marriage of a Phoebe SHAW to a James ISLEY at Hammersmith London.  Phoebe states her father as George SHAW, Whitesmith.  That is correct!

A daughter Emma born in 1863 in London and another in 1870 in Melksham Wiltshire.

I’ve found a Jame and Emma arriving in Queensland in 1863.

A son Edward was born to James and Phoebe in Sydney NSW in 1867.

I also found online that a James ISLEY and Phoebe Shaw ISLEY went to Canada and the USA and a death of an Edward ISLEY in 1951 in Los Angeles who stated he was born in Sydney Australia.

I think I’m looking for ‘another pair of eyes’.  I’ve never heard anything about this before.  I’m in Australia and even though it was a long time ago, there is no family legend about another SHAW relative ever being in Australia.

I’m wondering if my Phoebe isn’t the one who married James ISLEY but I can’t find her on any census.

Regards Bitzar.

[heywood]

Hello,

You don’t mention 1861 census - it is poor writing and on one site is transcribed as Phoebe Shane.
I have tried finding her or the other occupants on Family Search without success.

1861 19/70/19
Scarsdale Villas, Kensington

Phoebe Shane 34 yrs House Servant b Worksop, Nottinghamshire

It looks very much like Shaw.

Heywood

[Ladyhawk]

On 12 Mar 1862 there is a marriage of a Phoebe SHAW to a James ISLEY at Hammersmith London.  Phoebe states her father as George SHAW, Whitesmith.  That is correct!

A daughter Emma born in 1863 in London and another in 1870 in Melksham Wiltshire.

I’ve found a Jame and Emma arriving in Queensland in 1863.

A son Edward was born to James and Phoebe in Sydney NSW in 1867.

I also found online that a James ISLEY and Phoebe Shaw ISLEY went to Canada and the USA and a death of an Edward ISLEY in 1951 in Los Angeles who stated he was born in Sydney Australia.

Posting these details in case it helps anyone else looking

1871 Walworth Road, Newington, St Saviour Southwark, London & Surrey
Phoebe   Isley   Wife      1833      Nottinghamshire carpenter’s wife
Emma M   Isley   Daughter   1863      Middlesex
Edward J   Isley   Son 5                         Australia
Harriet E   Isley   Daughter   7mth            Wiltshire

ISLEY, EMMA  MATILDA     mn SHAW 
1863  M Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 125

ISLEY, HARRIET  ELLEN   mn SHAW
1870  S Quarter in MELKSHAM  Volume 05A  Page 126   


Departure Port:   London, England; Plymouth, England
Arrival Date:   9 Jul 1872
Arrival Port:   Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Vessel:   Medway
Jas Isley 38
Phoebe 38
Emma 10
Edw’ d J 5
Harriet 1

Pheebe Isley
Status   Married
Age   31y
Birth year   1832
Nationality   English
Occupation   Wife
Passenger or crew Passenger
Arrival year   1863
Ship Star Of England
Ship's departure port   London
Departure date   26 May 1863
Arrival date   17 Sep 1863
Arrival port   Brisbane Queensland Australia

[bitzar]

Thanks

I couldn’t find her on the 1861 or 1871.

Did I eventually find who I thought was them going to Quebec in 1872 though. 

I’m now fairly sure it’s her.  Her age is always at least 5-8 years out.  It seems she was older than James which might be the issue.

It’s interesting they went to Australia and the returned to England!

Appreciate all your efforts.

I’m also looking for her sister Mary Ann SHAW.  A more popular name than her sister unfortunately.  She was baptised at Worksop 01 Apr 1832.  She is with the family in the 1841 and 1851 but after that it becomes unclear.  Any ideas?!

Regards Bitzar.

[Ladyhawk]

I’m also looking for her sister Mary Ann SHAW.  A more popular name than her sister unfortunately. 

She was baptised at Worksop 01 Apr 1832. 

She is with the family in the 1841 and 1851 but after that it becomes unclear. 

Any ideas?!

Could this be her on 1871 census

Union Workhouse
Mary Ann Shaw Age:   37 Worksop, Nottinghamshire, formerly a servant
Relation:   Inmate 
Ecclesiastical parish:   St John. Town:   Worksop Nottinghamshire
Piece:   3459
Folio:   106
Page Number:   40

[bitzar]

Hmmm

I didn’t want that to be her when she had a perfectly good brother or 2 around!

Bitzar.

[jennifer c]

1861 census Pannal Low Harrowgate Yorkshire

Mary Ann Shaw 29 lodger born Worksop Nottinghamshire

Jennifer

[Ladyhawk]

I was wondering about this 1861 census entry but birth year is out and  her place of birth is different

RG09 Piece 2472Folio   16 Page   1
Kirklington Hall Nottingham
Mary A Shaw 1835 Boughton, Nottinghamshire occ Laundrymaid

[jennifer c]

I think the one I found could most likely be the right one lady hawk.

Jennifer