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Re: Sarah Lydia Powell nee Toleman 1821 -1886
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 30 April 19 21:53 BST (UK) »
This is confusing - this seems to be the 1841 family but are they the family of Sarah?

1851 1511/298/12
15 Wych Street Westminster
James Toleman   57 yrs Trimming Seller b Somersetshire
Mary Toleman   50 yrs
Mary Toleman 26 yrs
John Toleman   17 yrs
Elizabeth Toleman 12 yrs
William Toleman 10 yrs
Mary Underwood niece 15 yrs

Elizabeth and (James) William have mother Underwood.
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Re: Sarah Lydia Powell nee Toleman 1821 -1886
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 30 April 19 22:07 BST (UK) »
Quote from: heywood on Tuesday 30 April 19 21:53 BST (UK)
This is confusing - this seems to be the 1841 family but are they the family of Sarah?

1851 1511/298/12
15 Wych Street Westminster
James Toleman   57 yrs Trimming Seller b Somersetshire
Mary Toleman   50 yrs
Mary Toleman 26 yrs
John Toleman   17 yrs
Elizabeth Toleman 12 yrs
William Toleman 10 yrs
Mary Underwood niece 15 yrs

Elizabeth and (James) William have mother Underwood.

Mmm...I was wondering about that entry as I’d seen GRO birth indexes for an  Elizabeth 1839  & James 1841 mn Underwood

James baptism just has mother’s name as Mary - can’t find Elizabeth - did James remarry and have a change of occupation
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Re: Sarah Lydia Powell nee Toleman 1821 -1886
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 30 April 19 22:14 BST (UK) »
When James married Mary in 1832 he was recorded as a bachelor.

So perhaps he is the (much) older brother of Sarah Lydia b 1820 - if so, effectively a generation older.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Sarah Lydia Powell nee Toleman 1821 -1886
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 30 April 19 22:26 BST (UK) »
Could this be a possible remarriage for James both are widowed

James Toleman
Marriage Banns Date:   17 Apr 1836
Marriage Banns Place:   St Giles without Cripplegate, City of London
Spouse:   Mary Osborne
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Re: Sarah Lydia Powell nee Toleman 1821 -1886
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 30 April 19 22:36 BST (UK) »
Yes there is a likely death/burial on Deceased Online for the first Mary, in 1835.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Sarah Lydia Powell nee Toleman 1821 -1886
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 30 April 19 22:47 BST (UK) »
Index only

Elizabeth Toleman
Baptism 27 Jun 1839
Baptism Place:   Saint Leonards,Shoreditch,London,
Father:   James Toleman
Mother:   Mary
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Re: Sarah Lydia Powell nee Toleman 1821 -1886
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 30 April 19 22:48 BST (UK) »
Baptisms St Leonard’s Shoreditch
Parents James and Sarah

Mary Hill Toleman
Sarah Lydia
As mentioned before 1824

James William Toleman 23 July 1826 Father James, a Tailor address Hoxton Fields born 3rd June 1826

Then there is this but no image
James William Hill Toleman baptised 18 Deptember 1826 born 3rd June 1826
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Re: Sarah Lydia Powell nee Toleman 1821 -1886
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 30 April 19 22:58 BST (UK) »
London directory
1840 James Toleman 11 Tabernacle Walk Hook and Eye Maker

1845
James Toleman 11 Tabernacle Walk Hook and Eye Manufacturer
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Re: Sarah Lydia Powell nee Toleman 1821 -1886
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 30 April 19 23:01 BST (UK) »
1850
11 Tabernacle Walk and 15 Wych Street
James Toleman Button and Trimming Seller
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