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Offline Yvonne Donnellon

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Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« on: Saturday 04 May 19 11:31 BST (UK) »
I hope you don't mind me asking for help, I'm at my wit's end with this research, right now it looks like my Great Grandfather just disappeared off the face of the earth!

As the time he disappeared was during or just before WW1, I'm exploring if he signed up. I have attached a record which could be him. The man I'm looking for lived in Mann St, Bootle North Liverpool (there is another family in Alt Road,Toxteth south Liverpool, whom I don't think I am related to).

So, the help I need to identify the family this soldier came from? Does anyone have access to any other military databases?  What records can I expect to find which will help identify him?

My James was born in Shrule, Ireland 1871, was still in Ireland in 1901 but had moved to Liverpool by 1906 as the next record I have is his marriage certificate when he married Catherine McDonough in 1906. They had at least 2 children but unfortunately every document I have has a different spelling of the surname Donnellon (even the attached record!) so I don't think I have the complete picture yet.

I have a census record which seems to suggest Catherine was a widow by 1911 but there is mistakes in that too. She was definitely a widow by 1926 when she re-married to James Grant.

Please help me find my Great Grandfather!

Thanks in advance x

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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 May 19 11:50 BST (UK) »
The soldier below died in Ypres in 1915.

Sapper
DONNELLAN, JAMES
Service Number 15726

Died 09/08/1915

12th Field Coy.
Royal Engineers

Born in Ennis Co Clare Enlisted in Inch.
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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 May 19 12:12 BST (UK) »
The claimant on the above soldier .
His Father  John Donnellan
Cragragower,
Ennis.


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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 May 19 12:14 BST (UK) »
Thank you Carol and normamac that's definitely not my relative, back to the starting line then! :-(

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 May 19 16:22 BST (UK) »
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I have a census record which seems to suggest Catherine was a widow by 1911 but there is mistakes in that too. She was definitely a widow by 1926 when she re-married to James Grant.

When you say "seems to suggest" do you mean because she is on her own with no husband?

Has she left her marital status blank?

Did she remarry in Liverpool.
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 May 19 16:27 BST (UK) »
This might be wrong but there is a tree with a 1906 marriage to the lady you suggest but it has James born 1885 Liverpool not 1871 Ireland  :-\

Do you have the marriage confirming it was your James?

It also has a Donnellon child born in 1917.
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 May 19 16:41 BST (UK) »
She marries James Grant as O'Donnellon,yet another spelling of the surname!

Marriages Dec 1926
 
Grant    James    to O'Donnellon    W. Derby    8b   803    
O'Donnellon    Catherine  to    Grant    W. Derby    8b   803    

She might have said she was a widow,but it doesn't mean she actually was!
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 May 19 17:15 BST (UK) »
So this is the Catherine you mean in 1911?

Where are her children though?

At 27 Mann St Bootle, Bootle cum Linacre,

Kate   Donolon   Head   Widow 26      b Ireland
Peter   Pane     Boarder   Single 25      Labourer Dock   b Ireland
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 May 19 17:29 BST (UK) »
 Yes, 27 Mann street, Kate's age and years of marriage fits, plus she had both my aunt Julia and my grandfather John before 1911, I'm assuming her first born died. But the summary page is wrong it say John and Kate was born in Liverpool. not Ireland