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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 04 May 19 22:59 BST (UK) »
What an awful surname to research,it changes every time it is written down.
I  notice from the marriage cert that he couldn't sign his name,so he probably couldn't read either,therefore he wouldn't know how his name should or was spelt.

I think she had separated from James by the time Catherine was born,otherwise she swould have named him as the baby's father.

The 1911 census was the first one totally filled in by the householder,so she would have done that herself.She may have told a few white lies to cover herself though.

Who was Peter Pane,her boyfriend,or just an innocent lodger?

I think this one will run and run.

Maybe someone else will come on board tomorrow with more ideas.

Carol

Tell me about it! Without DNA testing I would never have worked out where in Ireland we came from. I don't think Kate could read or write either.  Carol, I was also wondering about the boarder, and I have only just noticed the witness at their marriage was also Payne (different spelling!)

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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 04 May 19 23:06 BST (UK) »
What a PAYNE/PANE  ;D ;D ;D

Must admit I hadn't noticed that.
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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 04 May 19 23:58 BST (UK) »
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My James was born in Shrule, Ireland 1871,

Have you an exact date of birth?

Because there is a James Donnellon b 14 Jun 1871 Dock Labourer (from the free to view part of the 1939)  at 247 City Road, Manchester.
There are also  two redacted entries in the household

Added ..there is a 1939 Manchester marriage to Lilian  Cunliffe. 

Possible death of this one, although age is way out

Deaths Mar 1946   (>99%)
Donnellon    James    66    Manchester    8d   349

The Family of the late JAMES DONNELLON Thank relatives, friends and neighbours for kind expressions of sympathy and beautiful floral tributes in their sad b
23 March 1946 - Manchester Evening News - Manchester, Lancashire

Address on that notice is 16 Pingot Avenue, Northenden
currently concentrating on NUTCHER & MARSHALL families, Hampshire.
and family of Thomas ANDERSON a Tailor of Perth, Scotland

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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 05 May 19 00:24 BST (UK) »
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My James was born in Shrule, Ireland 1871,

Have you an exact date of birth?

Because there is a James Donnellon b 14 Jun 1871 Dock Labourer (from the free to view part of the 1939)  at 247 City Road, Manchester.
There are also  two redacted entries in the household

Added ..there is a 1939 Manchester marriage to Lilian  Cunliffe. 

Possible death of this one, although age is way out

Deaths Mar 1946   (>99%)
Donnellon    James    66    Manchester    8d   349

The Family of the late JAMES DONNELLON Thank relatives, friends and neighbours for kind expressions of sympathy and beautiful floral tributes in their sad b
23 March 1946 - Manchester Evening News - Manchester, Lancashire

Address on that notice is 16 Pingot Avenue, Northenden

I have 8 sets of DNA matches back to this guy

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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 05 May 19 00:32 BST (UK) »
So April 9th 1871.
Thatís a shame
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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 05 May 19 11:05 BST (UK) »
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I don't think Kate could read or write either. 

It doesn't say "the mark of" on the marriage like it does with James which infers she could sign her name.
Plus as mentioned the 1911 census was completed by the householder in their own hand and she signed that albeit the surname is again spelled slightly differently to the entry.

I wonder what happened to the lodger and where he was circa 1916/17.

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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 05 May 19 11:15 BST (UK) »
What about the other witness Ellen was she a sister to Catherine, maybe she had the children with her.

Julia born 1910 should be a decent one to search for but nope  :-\
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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 05 May 19 11:51 BST (UK) »
Struggling to find the births for the children. 

This is the closest I can get to Julia - do you think this is her?

Mar 1909 West Derby

Donnelly Julia Mothers maiden name McDouough
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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 05 May 19 11:56 BST (UK) »
Sep 1907 West Derby

Donnelly John Mothers maiden name McDonough

Now there was a missing 3rd child wasn't there, wonder if we can find him or her.

I know it doesn't help with what happened to James but background info.
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire