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Offline Yvonne Donnellon

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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 04 May 19 17:30 BST (UK) »
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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 04 May 19 17:37 BST (UK) »
Should you put this on the Irish page???   

I know how hard it is to research the Irish side of a family... so maybe they can help more?

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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 04 May 19 17:38 BST (UK) »
But they're living in Liverpool Xinia
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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 04 May 19 17:44 BST (UK) »
So the plot thickens, as previously mentioned, there was another child in 1917, which I finally got a copy of the birth certificate this week  ::)

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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 04 May 19 17:54 BST (UK) »
This is the wedding cert, now my Great Grand daddy lied about his age, but I have 8 DNA matches which confirm it's him and 2 DNA matches to Catherine. Also note, Sherian Place, Mann St and Emley St are all adjacent to each other, and when these roads were destroyed in WW2, my family moved straight back into the estate they built to replace them. Not a fans of change, my lot!

If he abandoned her, rather than dying, how on earth do I ever find what happened to him?

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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 04 May 19 21:07 BST (UK) »
OOPs   sorry

oh dear .. dafter by the day


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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 04 May 19 21:48 BST (UK) »
Oh no father named on the birth certificate either and I see what you mean about census being confusing, she can't be a wife and widow at the same time  :-\

Plus as Carol mentioned where are her children born pre 1911?
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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 04 May 19 22:19 BST (UK) »
Oh no father named on the birth certificate either and I see what you mean about census being confusing, she can't be a wife and widow at the same time  :-\

Plus as Carol mentioned where are her children born pre 1911?

I think the census taker was a bit sloppy and it was only spotted later that she stated she was a widow, so the record was amended to make her the head of the household. However, where are her two children who would both have been under two at the time? Is it possible they were with another  family member as Kate would have had to go out to work now she was the main bread winner?

My emotions are all over the place with this, on one hand I'm worried he deserted her but I also know Poly-cystic Kidney disease  runs rife (still does) in my family could have been the cause of an early death. Yet, I have tried for months now to find a death record without any success either in Liverpool or in Ireland!?

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Re: Possibly my Great Grandfather - Help please?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 04 May 19 22:47 BST (UK) »
What an awful surname to research,it changes every time it is written down.
I  notice from the marriage cert that he couldn't sign his name,so he probably couldn't read either,therefore he wouldn't know how his name should or was spelt.

I think she had separated from James by the time Catherine was born,otherwise she swould have named him as the baby's father.

The 1911 census was the first one totally filled in by the householder,so she would have done that herself.She may have told a few white lies to cover herself though.

Who was Peter Pane,her boyfriend,or just an innocent lodger?

I think this one will run and run.

Maybe someone else will come on board tomorrow with more ideas.

Carol
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