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Re: A Fraser Family Member WW1 Mystery
« Reply #9 on: Monday 06 May 19 13:31 BST (UK) »
Dear Jim1, I was thinking/puzzling about what the "T" on his shoulder title was about so you have kindly given the Fraser family (Grandniece and Niece!) another piece of valued information about this particular picture. The picture could well be of John/Jack Fraser who was one of 15 siblings but my Fraser father-in-law would not speak about it. It was a "raw subject" with him probably due to their sad loss so we dared NOT to ask about the matter.

Thank you kindly, nw_whiskers.
Stevenson, Marnoch, Scotland

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Re: A Fraser Family Member WW1 Mystery
« Reply #10 on: Monday 06 May 19 14:58 BST (UK) »
Is the one who was lost John Shaw Fraser, missing in action 7 October 1916?

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I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Re: A Fraser Family Member WW1 Mystery
« Reply #11 on: Monday 06 May 19 21:05 BST (UK) »
Dear MaxD, Yes, John Shaw Fraser Corporal 2266, 1st/14th Bn., London Regt (London Scottish) 7th Oct 1916 age 22 from his Record of Commemoration as we have that piece of paper.

Pardon my lack of knowledge so may I ask about the "cane" that is shown in both of the pictures posted as I am not up on at what stage they are allowed to carry or display it.

The reason we asked about the picture in the first place was to try and establish which of the two Fraser brother (that were in the Army WW1) it was "likely to be" as it can down through the family via his 2nd youngest sister.


We have learned a lot in the process and are greatful to those have guided us with their posts, nw_whiskers


Stevenson, Marnoch, Scotland

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Re: A Fraser Family Member WW1 Mystery
« Reply #12 on: Monday 06 May 19 22:55 BST (UK) »
The cane I believe is a "Sagger Stick" lots of info on the use of these on google. Such a lovely looking young man and what a waste  :-\
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Re: A Fraser Family Member WW1 Mystery
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 07 May 19 06:26 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Treetotal on Monday 06 May 19 22:55 BST (UK)
The cane I believe is a "Sagger Stick" lots of info on the use of these on google. Such a lovely looking young man and what a waste  :-\
Carol


Should read "Swagger Stick"


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Re: A Fraser Family Member WW1 Mystery
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 07 May 19 08:42 BST (UK) »
Indeed.  The Wikipedia article is pretty good https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swagger_stick

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I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Re: A Fraser Family Member WW1 Mystery
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 07 May 19 10:09 BST (UK) »
Dear All, A "Swagger Stick" strikes me as such a lovely expression and appropriate expression for part of their Uniform of the time. Yes, you are right in "such a waste" of our youthful resources but that is the long history of mankind. We better NOT digress into that arena!

Again may I thank everybody for giving us a "much greater insight" into the London Scottish picture, nw_whiskers.
Stevenson, Marnoch, Scotland

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Re: A Fraser Family Member WW1 Mystery
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 07 May 19 10:28 BST (UK) »
You may have it already but the battalion's war diary for the period has a detailed account with sketches covering the attack on 7 October 1916.

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I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



Double  Essex/Suffolk
Randle/Millington Warwicks
Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia

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Re: A Fraser Family Member WW1 Mystery
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 07 May 19 10:51 BST (UK) »
Dear MaxD, No, we do not have that segment of the story but the Fraser Family could well cherish a link to that battalion war diary on 7 Oct 1916.


Many thanks, nw_whiskers
Stevenson, Marnoch, Scotland
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