Author Topic: Cost of Oxford Uni Education?  (Read 619 times)

Offline stanmapstone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,292
    • View Profile
Re: Cost of Oxford Uni Education?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 08 May 19 08:53 BST (UK) »
I've never understood the term "commoner" in this context; is it the same as pleb that is used in some instances?
Perhaps you could ask that as well.

"In the University of Oxford, a commoner is a student without a scholarship or exhibition" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commoner_(academia)

Stan
Mapstone, Mapston.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline MrDudley

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 402
  • Dudley of Leicestershire and London. Vintners.
    • View Profile
Re: Cost of Oxford Uni Education?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 09 May 19 09:18 BST (UK) »
New email from archivist this morning.
To quote.

'As to costs, it wasn’t cheap to send a boy to Oxford. All new undergraduates had to select a status based on their father’s background and University admission fees varied accordingly'

Commoner was the same as plebs but plebs would be used for fathers standing as seen in alumni records. Students standing is not shown on them, at least, Henry wasnt shown as a commoner on his so that info must be at the archives.
The archivist said it was interesting that Henry came up as a 'Commoner' and not a 'Gentleman Commoner' as per his fathers standing. This maybe henry being modest.

'In addition to the University admission fee, his father would have had to pay caution money (a type of insurance policy against damages or default). And then, at this period, he would have had to have a private arrangement with a tutor, pay board and lodging and other expenses, like academic clothes, books etc. It is difficult to say for certain what his costs would have been; once established (probably at a cost of about £10-£20), he could have managed on two or three shillings a week, plus whatever his tutor had agreed, as long as he wasn’t extravagant in his lifestyle.'
Richard Dudley of Cosby, Leicestershire. Gentleman
Landowner
1681-1748
Richard Dudley of Odstone and Cosby, Leicestershire. Gentleman.
Landowner
1652-1710
Henry Dudley of Odstone, Leicestershire. Esquire.
Lieutenant in Henry Hastings Regiment during Civil war.
Landowner and Vintner
1617-1688
Thomas Dudley of Swepstone, Leic and London. Gentleman.
Landowner
Vintner of London.
Worshipful Company of Vintners
1589-1660

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Online Marmalady

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,486
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Cost of Oxford Uni Education?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 09 May 19 09:40 BST (UK) »
This is interesting, as I have a family where at least 3 sons went to Cambridge in the 1720's before being ordained as priests. I presume costs would have been similar.

Their father (a Rector / schoolmaster) had died many years earlier, but their stepfather (also a Rector) seemed to have owned some property aside from whatever he earned from the Church. Even so, supporting three students as well as the rest of the family at home must have stretched the budget for a few years.

One of them was only 15 when he went -- would this be normal ?
Wainwright - Yorkshire
Whitney - Herefordshire
Watson -  Northamptonshire
Trant - Yorkshire
Helps - all
Needham - Derbyshire
Waterhouse - Derbyshire
Northing - all

Offline MrDudley

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 402
  • Dudley of Leicestershire and London. Vintners.
    • View Profile
Re: Cost of Oxford Uni Education?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 09 May 19 10:00 BST (UK) »
I think its roughly normal. Henry was aged 16.
Richard Dudley of Cosby, Leicestershire. Gentleman
Landowner
1681-1748
Richard Dudley of Odstone and Cosby, Leicestershire. Gentleman.
Landowner
1652-1710
Henry Dudley of Odstone, Leicestershire. Esquire.
Lieutenant in Henry Hastings Regiment during Civil war.
Landowner and Vintner
1617-1688
Thomas Dudley of Swepstone, Leic and London. Gentleman.
Landowner
Vintner of London.
Worshipful Company of Vintners
1589-1660

Offline pinefamily

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,541
  • Big sister with baby brother
    • View Profile
Re: Cost of Oxford Uni Education?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 09 May 19 11:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks for sharing the info about the costs.
And thanks Stan for the explanation of commoner.
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Carrington, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Bentham, Holloway, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Yorks, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.

Offline Edward Scott

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,147
    • View Profile
Re: Cost of Oxford Uni Education?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 09 May 19 16:47 BST (UK) »
Some of my ancient rellies were admitted as Sizars.

"an undergraduate at Cambridge University or at Trinity College, Dublin, receiving financial help from the college and formerly having certain menial duties."
Scott - Lincolnshire
Jobson - Lincolnshire, Suffolk
Needham - Lincolnshire
Wayet - Lincolnshire

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk