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Offline Liviani

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Who were William Beattie's parents? Benholm.
« on: Tuesday 07 May 19 17:18 BST (UK) »
William Beattie is my 4x great-grandfather. Here are some other threads (not mine) regarding some descendants.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=520761.msg3759621#msg3759621
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=398965.18

His wife is an Isobel Kennedy. There is no OPR record I can find, but they would've married approx 1806.

I've been going over this branch again and there seems to be some unconfirmed info on William re his parents. Some trees have them named as an Alexander Beattie and Isobel Taylor. However, I cannot verify this. There is a William Beattie born Benholm in 1777 to this couple.

William dies in 1854, just before civil registration. I have his Will which confirms his wife as Isobel Kennedy.

In 1841 he is living at Brawliemuir, Benholm with three of his children, Charles, Mary and Robert.
In 1851 they are still at Brawliemuir. His place of birth is stated as being Dunnotter. He is 78 years old here so born circa 1773.

Isobel's father John Kennedy is also still living at Brawliemuir in 1851 but in a separate household.

After William's death the tenancy is passed to my 3x great-grandfather (his son, Charles Beattie).

I have the following children for William and Isobel;

John 1807, Kinneff & Catterline.
{big gap here?}
Helen 1813, Benholm
Elisabeth 1816, Benholm
David 1817, Benholm
Charles 1819, Benholm
James 1822, Benholm
Mary 1825, Benholm
George 1826, Benholm
Robert 1828, Benholm
Colin 1830, Benholm

EDIT: He also has a daughter named in his Will called "Penelope" wife of Andrew Mowat.

Many thanks!

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Sheret, Hosie, Valentine, Crow, Beattie, McArthur, Wyllie.
Angus (Forfarshire)
Adam, Valentine, Ewan, Elder, Guild, Kydd, Bradford, Stronner, Gibson, Cloudsley, Evans, Stewart, Stott.
Perthshire
Small, Robertson, Murray, Kennedy, McGregor
Ross & Cromarty
Cameron, Stewart, Grant
Banffshire - Gamrie
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Re: Who were William Beattie's parents? Benholm.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 May 19 11:04 BST (UK) »
I cannot find a marriage but have you considered the following.

BEATTIE   WILLIAM   ROBERT BEATTIE   03/01/1774   Fordoun

BEATTIE   WILLIAM   JAMES BEATTIE/JANE PETER   12/10/1777   Kinneff and Catterline

KENNEDY   ISOBEL   JOHN KENNEDY   31/05/1787   Fordoun

Colin
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Who were William Beattie's parents? Benholm.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 May 19 13:24 BST (UK) »
KENNEDY   ISOBEL   JOHN KENNEDY   31/05/1787   Fordoun

Hi Colin, yes this is William Beattie's wife's baptism. Her father is John Kennedy and she was born Fordoun.

I'm leaning more towards the Kinneff birth as he states in 1851 that he was born Dunnotter (closer to there than Fordoun) and they had their first child at Kinneff. I will purchase both baptisms and see what info I can get from those. Many thanks.
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Kincardineshire
Sheret, Hosie, Valentine, Crow, Beattie, McArthur, Wyllie.
Angus (Forfarshire)
Adam, Valentine, Ewan, Elder, Guild, Kydd, Bradford, Stronner, Gibson, Cloudsley, Evans, Stewart, Stott.
Perthshire
Small, Robertson, Murray, Kennedy, McGregor
Ross & Cromarty
Cameron, Stewart, Grant
Banffshire - Gamrie
Anderson, Massie

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Re: Who were William Beattie's parents? Benholm.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 May 19 14:41 BST (UK) »
BEATTIE   JAMES   JEAN PETER   23/06/1776   Arbuthnott

It looks like William was the only child of the above, so did Jane die and James remarry.

BEATTIE   JAMES   MARY EDDIE   04/08/1781   Kinneff and Catterline

Children Kinneff and Catterline, parents James and Mary

JAMES 29/08/1782, JOHN 5/06/1785, ANN 1/09/1790, MARY 29/01/1795


The only other record at Fordoun;

BEATTIE   JEAN   ROBERT BEATTIE   10/08/1759   Fordoun

The only marriage for Robert in the county, I  presume banns at both places.

BEATTIE   ROBERT   MARGARET SADLER   15/04/1759   Fordoun
BEATTIE   ROBERT   MARGT. SADDLER   15/04/1759   Kinneff and Catterline

The only problem with both of Williams above parents is the lack of a naming pattern.

Colin
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.


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Re: Who were William Beattie's parents? Benholm.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 May 19 18:58 BST (UK) »
Thank you Colin.

Apologies for the delayed response, but thank you again for your help here. I have much to consider and will do so over the next few days with the info you have provided.
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Sheret, Hosie, Valentine, Crow, Beattie, McArthur, Wyllie.
Angus (Forfarshire)
Adam, Valentine, Ewan, Elder, Guild, Kydd, Bradford, Stronner, Gibson, Cloudsley, Evans, Stewart, Stott.
Perthshire
Small, Robertson, Murray, Kennedy, McGregor
Ross & Cromarty
Cameron, Stewart, Grant
Banffshire - Gamrie
Anderson, Massie

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Re: Who were William Beattie's parents? Benholm.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 July 19 11:16 BST (UK) »
This is from the Family Search website
William Beattie
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

Name:   
William Beattie
Gender:   
Male
Christening Date:   
26 Feb 1769
Christening Place:   
KINNEFF AND CATTERLINE,KINCARDINE,SCOTLAND
Father's Name:   
John Beattie
Mother's Name:   
Margt. Napier

William Beattie
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

Name:   
William Beattie
Gender:   
Male
Christening Date:   
30 Oct 1767
Christening Place:   
BERVIE,KINCARDINE,SCOTLAND
Father's Name:   
Andrew Beattie
Mother's Name:   
Elspit Moir
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Re: Who were William Beattie's parents? Benholm.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 July 19 19:55 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for the help.

Not too sure who to go with, there is also an absence of any particular naming pattern. I'm leaning away from Andrew Beattie and Elspeth Moir as Andrew doesn't really feature at all in this line of Beatties.

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Kincardineshire
Sheret, Hosie, Valentine, Crow, Beattie, McArthur, Wyllie.
Angus (Forfarshire)
Adam, Valentine, Ewan, Elder, Guild, Kydd, Bradford, Stronner, Gibson, Cloudsley, Evans, Stewart, Stott.
Perthshire
Small, Robertson, Murray, Kennedy, McGregor
Ross & Cromarty
Cameron, Stewart, Grant
Banffshire - Gamrie
Anderson, Massie

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Re: Who were William Beattie's parents? Benholm.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 July 19 09:05 BST (UK) »
I would have a look at the Kinneff & Catterline one, with him giving his birth as Dunnottar?

Jean
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Mitchell                           Gwynne
Davidson                        Evans
Eggie                              Felvus
Leighton                         Rowley
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Re: Who were William Beattie's parents? Benholm.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 July 19 18:28 BST (UK) »
I would have a look at the Kinneff & Catterline one, with him giving his birth as Dunnottar?

Jean

That makes sense Jean thanks. I agree.
mtDNA subclade K1b2b. Father's Y-DNA I-S25383
GEDmatch kit; CF7867455
Father's kit; RY1336515
Mother's kit; AF2312865


Kincardineshire
Sheret, Hosie, Valentine, Crow, Beattie, McArthur, Wyllie.
Angus (Forfarshire)
Adam, Valentine, Ewan, Elder, Guild, Kydd, Bradford, Stronner, Gibson, Cloudsley, Evans, Stewart, Stott.
Perthshire
Small, Robertson, Murray, Kennedy, McGregor
Ross & Cromarty
Cameron, Stewart, Grant
Banffshire - Gamrie
Anderson, Massie