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Sisters or not and where was the first marriage?
« on: Thursday 09 May 19 13:46 BST (UK) »
Help please I am stuck
Known facts:-
Charles Mason
born 4 Nov 1820 East Woodhay
1841???
1849-1853 Police Officer Southwark
1851HO107/1562 fo360 p30 with wife Ann
1853-1856 Mounted Staff Coy serving in the Crimea
1857 marriage to Harriet Strike nee Castle, St Marylebone, she was a widow he a widower
1856-1865 Policeman Kensington
1871 RG10/  39 fo 31 p 6 with wife Harriet

With Ann he appears to have two children
Gro index shows his daughter Harriet Castle Mason has mother nee Castle
and there is a baptism for Charles John Mason in Burnham Bucks. with father Charles John a policeman and mother Ann but this is the only place where the policeman is given the second name and it is before his Met. Police records have him commencing his police career and the only Charles MASON Registration shows mother maiden name Rooke was this the son shown on the 1851 census?
Neither has a marriage for Charles Mason and Ann either Castle or Rooke been found.
Ann and Harriet Castle were sisters but did Ann marry Charles Mason and if so where and when ? Where was baby Charles registered if he isn't the son of  the mother nee  Rooke?
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Re: Sisters or not and where was the first marriage?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 May 19 15:08 BST (UK) »
Could this be Charles Johns birth reg - Eton RD covers Burnham

Birth Dec qtr 1848   
Charles John Mason        Eton    6   352
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Re: Sisters or not and where was the first marriage?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 May 19 15:11 BST (UK) »
I notice a Charles Mason was a witness to the marriage of Harriet Castle to George Strike

1851 c HO107; Piece: 1562; Folio: 360; Page: 30

Charles Mason   31 East Wooddhay, Police Constable
Ann Mason   32 Bray, Berkshire
Charles Mason   2 Burnham, Buckinghamshire
Harriett Mason   11 Mths Bermondsey, Surrey

There is this marriage entry FreeBMD  Is there another male name missing  :-\

female Harriet Russ name in italics district Windsor 6 page 331
edit looks page 351

Ann Castle
1847 Jan-Feb-Mar Wantage Berkshire Volume:   6 Page:   331
other names
Harriett Russ
Thomas White

Looking to see if I can find Charles Mason on the 1841 census
   

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Re: Sisters or not and where was the first marriage?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 May 19 15:49 BST (UK) »
To eliminate  :)
The Mason family who are registering births with mmn Rooke are at
HO107/1694 f266 p6 in 1851
Benjamin and his wife Mary Ann
Children
Sarah Ann age 11 (MASON, SARAH  ANN  mmn ROOKE  1839  D Quarter in COOKHAM)
Harriet age 6  (MASON, HARRIET  mmn ROOKE  1845  M Quarter in COOKHAM )
Charles age 4 (MASON, CHARLES   mmn ROOKE  1847  M Quarter in COOKHAM )
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Re: Sisters or not and where was the first marriage?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 May 19 15:51 BST (UK) »
Could this be Charles Johns birth reg - Eton RD covers Burnham

Birth Dec qtr 1848   
Charles John Mason        Eton    6   352

Possibly the above Charles on 1881 census

Charles John Mason 33 bn Burnham occ Master baker married to Sarah Ann
2 children Eveyln & Camilla

MASON, EVELYN  SARAH mmm   BEAMS 
1879  M Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 419

MASON, CAMILLA  LAVENIA  mmn   BEAMS 
1881  M Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 453

13 Jan 1878 St John the Evangelist, Ladbroke Grove, Kensington and Chelsea
Charles John MASON 30 baker father Charles occ traveller               
Sarah Ann BEAMS 30 father William dec’d butter man
Witnesses Thomas Henry Beams & Letitia Mary MASON

1871 census - not found

1861 census has a Charles Mason age 13 bn Burnham grandson

John Castle   69
Mary Castle   69
George Strike   21 lodger
William Collins   15 grandson
Charles Mason   13 grandson

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Re: Sisters or not and where was the first marriage?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 May 19 16:05 BST (UK) »
The GRO index is not yielding that 1848 Eton birth registration so we can get a mothers maiden surname   ::) 
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Re: Sisters or not and where was the first marriage?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 May 19 16:07 BST (UK) »
The GRO index is not yielding that 1848 Eton birth registration so we can get a mothers maiden surname   ::)

I couldn't find it either  ???

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Re: Sisters or not and where was the first marriage?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 May 19 16:25 BST (UK) »
It's there as a female. Mother = Castle
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Re: Sisters or not and where was the first marriage?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 May 19 16:29 BST (UK) »
Charles John Mason Dec 1848, Eton - mmn is Castle.  He's listed as female!

added: just beat me to it tellx
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