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Offline minniehaha

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Re: Birth at sea
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 12 May 19 07:56 BST (UK) »
https://sites.rootsweb.com/~nzbound/bdm.htm


"Records of births, marriages and deaths of British nationals at sea, in foreign countries or while serving in HM Forces abroad are preserved at the Register Office of their country of origin, but may also be recorded at the Office of National Statistics in the 'Overseas' section. "Reference: BMD Records information leaflet PRO UK. Births and death events were recorded in the ship's log; the information was copied to Board of Trade Registrar of Births and Deaths and at year end and in NZ. New Zealand required registration of events at sea on arrival. So it is possible to find the event recorded in NZ and the UK with slightly different data."

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Birth at sea
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 12 May 19 14:12 BST (UK) »
Presuming the vessel involved was British flagged, Then there are some records online which may give you some information.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3196
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C408556
There is a link on the pages to the online records but try a keyword search first.
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Re: Birth at sea
« Reply #11 on: Monday 13 May 19 11:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks Minniehaha and seaweed - a bit to digest there.
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: Birth at sea
« Reply #12 on: Monday 13 May 19 22:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks Minniehaha and seaweed - a bit to digest there.


Mmmmm....  ;D


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Birth at sea
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 15 May 19 04:27 BST (UK) »
So I am wondering about the designations or definitions of ....

BRITISH and COLONY

In one instance a birth at sea is to be registered in the Registrar General of Shipping and Seamen (RGSS) at the next British port according to the GRO.  Is this specifically a port of Great Britain only?  Or a port of the Dominion?

Then

In one NZ Paperspast legislation article it refers to 'born at sea or out of the colony, of parents whose ordinary place of abode is within the colony' (as early as 1848!).  Does this mean only New Zealand?  When do immigrants who originally came from GB become colonists?  When they leave GB?  When they arrive in NZ?  Is colony different to Dominion which means GB, NZ and others?

Later in 1859 this wording was changed to "are about to take up their abode in the colony" which clears that up from thence in my mind as being NZ only and attributable to those having left their country with the intention of settling.
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM