HENDERSON, William of Harleyvale NSW, Australia, miner, 1892 where did he go?

[Dumbarton17]

William Henderson, born Scotland 1846, emigrated from NZ to NSW Australia approx june 1891.
His wife Margaret returned to NZ in 1902 with members of the family.
she remarried in 1916 in NZ.
The 2nd marriage cert records Williams death in 1892, but we have been unable to find a death record in Australia or NZ to verify.
what really happened to William?

[majm]

Where have you already looked for the death/inquest/probate for your William HENDERSON?  I am wondering if Harleyvale NSW is actually Hartley Vale, NSW ?  In the 1890s there was mining for Shale etc in and around Hartley Vale, along Reedy Creek and up to Mt Victoria.   

Re any missing death cert ... well, until around 1918 (ie after WWI) the NSW BDM admin did not have a follow up trigger for confirming that they had all the paperwork.   So, particularly in the non urban areas, where the Deputy Registrars were part time positions, it was entirely possible for a Police officer to be informed of a sudden/unexplained death and for the police to then inform the Police Magistrate who then informed the Coroner/Sheriff and Medicos and for the Coroner or Police Magistrate to issue a burial order for the public health aspect prior to the formality of the issue of the outcome of any inquest.   So if perhaps a tragedy occurred to a miner, there may have been an inquest, and he may have been buried BEFORE the coroner provided the paperwork for the death to be formally registered.  I cannot comment on the efficiency of the BDM offices in the other colonies/states, sorry.  Each British colony that in the 19th century was provided with their own written constitution (including one each for NSW, NZ, Qld, SA, Tas, Vic, WA) and each of them had legislative authority to establish and maintain their own institutions ... including their own BDM registers...   

IF ... and it is really only IF ....  if your chap died under that type of circumstance,  it may well be that the tragedy was written up in newspapers or there may be an entry in an inquest index ...

Trove (similar to Papers Past NZ) :  https://trove.nla.gov.au/

NSW Archives https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/

Mariners and ships in Australian Waters http://marinersandships.com.au/ 

And of course he may have deserted the family in 1892


JM

[Dumbarton17]

Thank you for the reply JM,
We know William had his last child born in Hartley Vale in Jan 1893. This would presumably indicate he was alive in April 1892, assuming he did not die of shock as it was his 11th child.
The paperwork indicates that he or someone posing as William was the informant on the birth cert but there are some unusual aspects to it
The next date that we can be sure of is May 1894 when he was not present for the marriage of his first born daughter.
He failed to make an appearance at any of his children's later marriages .
He did not return to NZ when the rest of the family moved back in 1902.
We believe that this is the window of time in which he disappeared and have searched BDM and newspaper sources that you have indicated.
William was an experienced shale miner and had been in the mines since he was 15.
There is also the possibility that he was the Union Secretary on Denniston Hill, NZ when the union dissolved in 1891. We have not been able to verify as we understand that the records were lost.
There is a letter printed in Melbourne Argus in 1891 to W G Spence, secretary of the amalgamated metal workers union, signed by one William Henderson indicating he was looking to send men to NSW where there was a shortage of miners at the time.
We do not believe your last scenario, that he just left, after all the years he had with his family,
but If the latter is the case we are happy to hear of a verifiable alternate reality.

[wivenhoe]

Is this your family?

Auckland Star 15 Sep 1934 p1
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19340915.2.4?

O'CONNELL. —On September 14, dearly beloved mother of John, William, Peter, Andy, Jim and Sam HENDERSON, Mesdames McCULLOGH, BROOKING , and THOMPSON. Funeral leaves 24, Moa Road, Point Chevalier, 2 p.m. Sunday, Hillsboro.


BDM NZ death
1934/19319   O'CONNELL   Margaret   81Y

BDM NZ marriages
1909/6841   Isabella           HENDERSON   marr.   Richard Thomas   BROOKING
1923/6539   Elizabeth Jane   HENDERSON   marr.    David   McCULLOUGH

[Dumbarton17]

You are correct,
Isabella was my Grandmother.
I am not aware of any Elizabeth Jane in the family.
Isabella's sister was Elizabeth Ann Thompson.

[sparrett]

Hi,
Are you able to expand on the unusual aspects of the birth registration of the youngest child?

Do you know the names of William's parents ?
Sue

[Dumbarton17]

Thanks for your interest,

The informant in recorded as William Hinderson, Father.

The birth cert lists the mothers name as "Maggie" rather than Margaret. This does not appear on any of the other childrens certificates.

The birthdate and age given for William are incorrect  and you would expect someone to know their own age.

The names of his Parents were William and Ann

[sparrett]

Thanks for your interest,

The birth cert lists the mother name as "Maggie" rather than Margaret. This does not appear on any of the other childrens certificates.
The birthdate and age are incorrect and you would expect someone to know their own age

The names of his Parents were William and Ann

But she was not the informant I thought.
So
The birth date of whom? 

EDIT

I am editing this post to try to keep it in line with Dumbarton's post which originally states as I have quoted here The birthdate and age are incorrect   .....

It now reads the birthdate and age given for William are incorrect

Hence my question.

Sue

[majm]

Have you compared his signature on that birth cert  ?  And does it give the correct info for all the older siblings  .... and for Maggie ... does it give her correct info ? 

Is this for NSW bdm birth cert 20210/1893 ....

JM