Londonderry - Jane Dunbar McGuiness (help to research)

[aghadowey]

Another daughter of David McGuinness-
Rebecca McGuinness (c1856-1885) m.(1882) Alexander Anderson
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1882/10983/8015131.pdf

Looks like she died a few years later-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1885/06288/4801711.pdf

Note: Rev. William Nesbitt McGuinness had son Edwin Dunbar McGuinness

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Derry Journal, 4 May 1885: ANDERSON- May 1, at 6, Grove-place, Derry, Rebecca, the beloved wife of Alexander Anderson, jun.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/191869271/samuel-gilliland-mc_guinness

Another son of David McGuinness-
Joseph Allison McGuinness (c1858-1917), coal merchant, m.(1900) Jessie Clarke McCleery
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban_No__1/Lawrence_Street/1531117
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban__1_/Lawrence_Street/600994
Derry City Cemetery: Joseph Allison McGuinness, parents David & Anne, age 59, Lawrence Hill, died 13 Dec.1917
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/188509138/joseph-allison-mc_guinness
Probate of the Will of Joseph Allison McGuinness late of Laurency Hill, Co. Londonderry, coal merchant, who died 13 December 1917 granted at Londonderry to John Pinkerton, The Cross, Londonderry, Co. Londonderry, merchant; Thompson B. Adams, Laurence Hill, Londonderry, secretary of Londonderry County Council and Jessie Clarke McGuinness, Laurence Hill, Londonderry, widow. Effects: £13,168 2s 7d
1. Norah Allison McGuinness
2. Charlotte Lane McGuinness
3. Joseph Allison McGuinness
4. Evelyn Frances McGuinness

Note: at least one online tree gives David's wife as Ann Nesbitt but this would need verified

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Londonderry Sentinel, 15 Sept.1927: … M'Clenaghan, The Rectory, Letterkenny, county Donegal, and Miss Charlotte Lane M'Guinness, second daughter of the late Mr. Joseph Allison M'Guinness and of Mrs. M'Guinness, Allendale, Lawrence Hill, Londonderry. The Cathedral was crowded. As the congregation were ...

Londonderry Sentinel, 19 Sept.1922: WIGHTMAN—September 10, 1922, at Glasgow, Joseph Allison M'Guinness, third son of Alexander Wightman, Lawrence Hill. Funeral private, to City Cemetery.
Which leads to another daughter of David McGuinness-

Annie Elizabeth McGuinness (c1866-1918) m.(1888) Alexander Wightman (c1860 Scotland-1953), watchmaker
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10757/5923012.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05151/4420117.pdf
Derry Journal. 16 Dec.1953: WIGHTMAN -December 14. 1953 (at an advanced age). Alexander Wightman (retired. Jeweller), “Thistledoon,” Lawrence Hill. Londonderry. House and funeral strictly private. No letters or flowers …
Londonderry Sentinel. 15 Dec.1953: ALEX. WIGHTMAN The death took place yesterday at his residence, "Thistledoon," Lawrence Hill, Londonderry, of Mr. Alexander Wightman, retired jeweller. The late Mr. Wightman, who was ninety-three years of age, was a native of Arbroath, Scotland, and …
Wightman Alexander of Thistledoon Lawrence Hill Londonderry retired jeweller died 14 December 1953 at Westbank Nursing Home Londonderry Probate Londonderry 20 January to Robert Cowan McCrum bank manager William Dysart Wightman optician and James Petrie Edgar Wightman presbyterian minister. Effects £7361 9s. 11d.
Derry Journal. 28 Feb.1955: Derry Jeweller's Will Mr. Alexander Wightman. Thistledown, Lawrence Hill, Derry, retired jeweller, who died on 14th December. 1953, left estate in England and the ... 
 
More to follow later...

[aghadowey]

It's getting more interesting but complicated 

David McGinnis (c1809-17 July 1869 William St.), son of William, m. Rebecca (d.1854 William St.); m.(1854) Anne Allison (c1823-1881), dau of Joseph Allison
Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGX1-4DJ (Magennis) & https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGV8-D37S
Londonderry Standard, 14 Dec.1854: Presbyterian Church, the Rev. James Denham, D.D., Mr. David Magninness, painter. Londonderry, Annie, youngest daughter of Joseph Allison, Esq., Craig, near Muff, county Donegal.
Londonderry Sentinel, 20 July 1869: July 17, at his residence, William Street, Londonderry, Mr. David Maginness, aged 60 years.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06413/4841817.pdf
1. Joseph Allison McGuinness (c1858-1917)- see reply #19
2. Daughter (4 Sept.1865) Annie Elizabeth?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03553/2308061.pdf (father David painter, 6 William St.)

Family tree that says Joseph Allison McGuinnes' mother was Ann Nesbitt I think has confused Joseph's mother Ann Allison with father's first wife Jane Nesbitt.

So, David likely married 1st Jane Nesbitt, 2nd Rebecca, 3rd Ann Allison

David McGuinness/McGinnis (1810?-1869?), son of William, painter & glazier, m. Jane Nesbitt, m. Rebecca (d.1854 William St.), m.(1854) Anne Allison
1. Rev. William Nesbitt McGuinness (c1834-1881 Australia), eld. son
2. Jane Dunbar McGuinness (1839-1912), eld. dau., m.(1865 N.Z.) Edwin Holloway
3. Matilda “Tilly” McGuinness (c1843), 2nd dau., m.(1863) Thomas Henry Corr
4. Robert McGuinness (c1846-1853) (William St.)
5. Samuel Gilliland McGuinness (c1851-1919)
6. Rebecca McGuinness (c1856-1889) m.(1882) Alexander Anderson (alive 1895)
Children of David & Anne-
7. Joseph Allison McGuinness (c1858-1917)
8. Annie Elizabeth McGuinness (1865?)

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Annie Elizabeth McGuinness (c1866-1919) m.(1888) Alexander Wightman (c1860 Scotland-1953), watchmaker
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10757/5923012.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05151/4420117.pdf
Derry Journal, 28 Feb.1955: Derry Jeweller's Will Mr. Alexander Wightman. Thistledown, Lawrence Hill, Derry, retired jeweller, who died on 14th December. 1953, left estate in England and the
Derry Journal, 16 Dec.1953: WIGHTMAN -December 14. 1953 (at an advanced age). Alexander Wightman (retired. Jeweller), “Thistledoon,” Lawrence Hill. Londonderry. House and funeral strictly private. No letters or flowers
Londonderry Sentinel, 15 Dec.1953: ALEX. WIGHTMAN The death took place yesterday at his residence, . "Thistledoon," Lawrence Hill, Londonderry, of Mr. Alexander Wightman, retired jeweller. The late Mr. Wightman, who was ninety-three years of age, was a native of Arbroath, Scotland, and
Wightman Alexander of Thistledoon Lawrence Hill Londonderry retired jeweller died 14 December 1953 at Westbank Nursing Home Londonderry Probate Londonderry 20 January to Robert Cowan McCrum bank manager William Dysart Wightman optician and James Petrie Edgar Wightman presbyterian minister. Effects £7361 9s. 11d.
1. Amy Louise Wightman (1889) m.(1914) Hugh Conn Reid
2. Alexander Wightman (1890-1943 Belfast) m.(1923) May Gordon
3. William Dysart Wightman (1891) m.(1916) Lillian May Anderson
4. Dorothy Agnes Wightman (1894) m.(1922) Robert Cowan McCrum
5. Joseph Allison McGuinness Wightman (1896-1922 Glasgow)
6. John Wilson Nesbit “Jack” Wightman (c1901-1918)
7. Charles Stubbs Dyer Wightman (1904)
8. Rev. James Petrie Edgar Wightman (1906)

More details on this branch later...

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Amy Louise Wightman (1889) m.(1914) Hugh Conn Reid
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02464/1915041.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09848/5576051.pdf
1. Amelia Louise Reid (1916) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01336/1551434.pdf

Alexander Wightman (1890-1943 Belfast) m.(1923) May Gordon
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02419/1901374.pdf
Londonderry Sentinel, 10 Aug.1916: Private Alexander Wightman, Black Watch, son of Mr. Alexander Wightman, Lawrence Hill, Londonderry, has been wounded for the second time.
Londonderry Sentinel, 27 Sept.1923: WIGHTMAN-GORDON- September 17, 1923, at _ Presbyterian Church, by the Rev. Samuel Logan, Alexander, eldest son of Alexander Wightman, Lawrence Hill, Derry, to May, eldest daughter of Thomas Gordon, Eden-terrace, Strabane.
Londonderry Sentinel, 16 Nov.1943: … that we record the death, which took place at private nursing home in Belfast yesterday, of Mr. Alexander .Wightman, jun., eldest son of Mr, Alexander Wightman and the late Mrs. Wightman, 16, Lawrence Hill, Londonderry. The late Mr. Wightman, like the other ...
Londonderry Sentinel, 18 Nov.1943: Funeral of Mr. Alex. Wightman, jun. The funeral of Mr. Alexander Wightman, jun., who passed away in Belfast nursing home on Monday, following an operation, took place to the Londonderry City ...
Wightman junior Alexander of 16 Lawrence Hill Londonderry jeweller's assistant died 15 November 1943 at Crescent Nursing Home Belfast Administration Londonderry 18 February to Alexander Wightman senior jeweller. Effects £3529 1s. 7d.

William Dysart Wightman (1891) m.(1916) Lillian May Anderson
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02369/1884373.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1916/09785/5551711.pdf
Londonderry Sentinel, 30 Sepy.1916: … 1916, at the Reformed Presbyterian Church, Ballyclabber, Rev. J. Renwick Wright, M.A., William Dysart, second son of Alexander Wightman, Lawrence Hill, Londonderry, to Lillian May, second daughter of Henry O’Hara Anderson, Kilcranny House, Coleraine.

Dorothy Agnes Wightman (1894) m.(1922) Robert Cowan McCrum
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02250/1846659.pdf
Londonderry Sentinel, 27 July 1922: … James Thompson, D.D., Robert Cowan, youngest son of Mrs. M'Crum, Templepatrick, to Dorothy Agnes, younger daughter of Alexander Wightman, Lawrence Hill, Londonderry.

Joseph Allison McGuinness Wightman (1896-1922 Glasgow)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02161/1819131.pdf
Administration of the Estate of Joseph A. Wightman late of Lawrence Hill in the County of the City of Londonderry Writing Clerk who died 10 September 1922 at Clydebank Glasgow in Scotland granted at Londonderry to Alexander Wightman Jeweller Effects £88 5s.

John Wilson Nesbit “Jack” Wightman (c1901-1918)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05151/4420117.pdf
Londonderry Sentinel, 5 Nov.1918: November 4, 1918, at his father’s residence, Lawrence Hill (of pneumonia), John W. N. (Jack) Wightman, fourth son of Alexander and Annie Wightman. Funeral City Cemetery on Thursday morning eleven o'clock.

Charles Stubbs Dyer Wightman (1904) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01827/1714219.pdf

Rev. James Petrie Edgar Wightman (1906) m.(1938) Olive Margaret Bryce
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01709/1677196.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1939/08853/5201378.pdf
Londonderry Sentinel, 10 Sept.1938: Pastor Rev. J. P. E. Wightman, B.A., Ordained For Badaney and Corrick, James Petrie Edgar Wightman, son of Mr. Alexander Wightman, Londonderry, and the late Mrs. Wightman, was Thursday installed to pastoral oversight of Badoney and Cork Presbyterian ...

[Londonderry]

Thank you all very very much!!! Your kind assistance to uncover relatives I couldn't find is greatly appreciated!!! Thank you : ) 

[wishtoknow]

Information from the late Rhoda McGuinness, which she said came from the family bible.

David Dunbar McGuinness b01/08/1809 d17/07/1869 married twice.

Rebecca Nesbitt m.1831 in Faughanvale Presbyterian Church, Muff.  Rebecca d17/04/1854

Annie Allison m.05/12/1854

First marriage produced 7 children.  Second marriage produced 6.

Posted by great-granddaughter of Samuel Gilliland McGuinness (1848-1919), youngest child of the first marriage.

I have a letter written by Mrs Violet Finlason nee Holloway in 1958 to my grandmother on the death of her husband, Samuel Joseph McGuinness, who was Violet's first cousin.   Violet's granddaughter, Beatrice Jackson, visited my grandparents shortly prior to 1958.

[Kiltaglassan]

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Annie Allison m.05/12/1854

First marriage produced 7 children.  Second marriage produced 6.

Link to marriage of David MAGINNIS to Anne ALLISON in 1854.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1854/09473/5433201.pdf

David's father William Maginnis, Anne's father Joseph Allison. Both farmers.