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« on: Wednesday 15 May 19 01:48 BST (UK) »
According to the ( IGI ) FamilySearch, They are showing that a John Innes married Janet Innes on the 4 Sep.1659 in Rothiemay. I checked with ScotlandsPeople for the year of 1659 concerning John Innes and Janet Innes but they had nothing. I then expanded my search from 1658 to 1660 and 1658 came up but in Banff and not Rothiemay, both in Banffshire.

Have I missed something here? Scotlands People say no but the IGI says yes.

I need help.

William in Montreal

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Re: Rothiemay
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 May 19 08:05 BST (UK) »
Could it be banns in both places. This happens when one party is from one parish and the other from another.  FS has recorded one and SP, the other  :-\

Also, the FS one might be from  a patron submission rather than one of their extracted records. The patron submissions are just that - what anyone has submitted - and are often wrong.

I'd go with the SP one as these are from the actual records. Have you looked at  the image of the original entry on there?

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Re: Rothiemay
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 May 19 09:36 BST (UK) »
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Rothiemay
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 May 19 10:58 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure why you've linked to Genuki,  Colin  :-\

From SP:

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INNES JOHNE JANET INNES/FR899 (FR899) 04/09/1659 165/30 377 Rothiemay

From FS:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTLS-6Y5

Both recorded same place, same time . You must have not searched SP correctly.  What did you search on?

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Added - I just put in John Innes and 1659
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Re: Rothiemay
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 May 19 11:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget, the link to GENUKI gave some additional information on Rothiemay, which Dufftown might find useful.

Colin
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Rothiemay
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 May 19 11:34 BST (UK) »
I think the real problem was the search parameters used rather than knowledge of Banffshire. I found the entries very easily - See Reply #3

Added - it's usually best to put in a minimum of info in searches of this kind.
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Re: Rothiemay
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 May 19 01:20 BST (UK) »
I re-tried with ScotlandsPeople for the year of marriage for John and Janet Innes. This time I looked for Janet Innes and the years only and I did get an extract. I also tried for John using the year only but no success.
Here are two extracts and need your help understing why so short an extract.

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Re: Rothiemay
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 May 19 08:30 BST (UK) »

Here are two extracts and need your help understing why so short an extract.

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It was fairly usual in those days to just make a short entry - just the names and date.   Have you compared the entry with others on the page. Marriage wasn't a religious sacrament in Scotland, as it was in England.

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Re: Rothiemay
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 May 19 20:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget. When I got this extract this was the only one as a one liner all the others had at least an explanation with witnesses. I thought that this was the normal for this.

You mentioned that perhaps Janet was from Rothiemay and John from another parish but I cannot find anything on John