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Re: CONVICTS TO AUSTRALIA FROM KILKENNY LOUGHLIN, Patrick and Thomas
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 16 May 19 09:25 BST (UK) »
Were they RC
Cellarstown is in the parish of St. Johns
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0991

Yes, they were Roman Catholic.

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The following info may help the experts on the Kilkenny board  :)

33-3051 (convict indent ref number)

Thomas LOUGHLIN arrived per Java November 1833, aged 26 yrs, no education, a farm servant,
Roman Catholic, married, 1 male child, 1 female child,. Native place County Kilkenny
Tired 11 March 1833 at Kilkenny (City) for Attacking a house
Sentenced to Life
No previous convictions.
 

33-3052
Patrick LOUGHLIN, brother to Thomas on same voyage
Patrick aged 22 years, no education, Roman Catholic, Farm servant, Single, native place Kilkenny, Same offence, trial, sentence as Thomas, and no previous convictions for Patrick either.

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Re: CONVICTS TO AUSTRALIA FROM KILKENNY LOUGHLIN, Patrick and Thomas
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 16 May 19 09:29 BST (UK) »
Found an article in the Evening Mail 18 March 1833
https://search.findmypast.com.au/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0001316%2f18330318%2f003
do you think it might be the right fellows?

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Yes they are the brothers you seek

Is it the same as the other one or is there anything new?
"Patrick Loughlin, Thomas Loughlin and Michael Keating, for a burglary, with intent to rob the house of John Butler, at Garret Green, in the liberties of Kilkenny, on the 4th of November. The robbery was not effected, and personal violence was prevented in consequence of the interference of “the Captain”, as the foremost assailant was called by 12 or 14 fellows who effected the outrage, though it appeared the object of their assault and forcible entrance was to shoot Butler, whom they put on his knees for the purpose. - Found Guilty."

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Re: CONVICTS TO AUSTRALIA FROM KILKENNY LOUGHLIN, Patrick and Thomas
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 16 May 19 10:16 BST (UK) »
Thomas LOUGHLIN arrived per Java November 1833, aged 26 yrs, no education, a farm servant,
Roman Catholic, married, 1 male child, 1 female child,. Native place County Kilkenny
Tired 11 March 1833 at Kilkenny (City) for Attacking a house
Sentenced to Life
No previous convictions.
 

Are the children's name known? Finding their baptisms would be a start?
You can't fish on a empty stomach so give the man one or two records so he knows how good it tastes.

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Re: CONVICTS TO AUSTRALIA FROM KILKENNY LOUGHLIN, Patrick and Thomas
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 16 May 19 11:41 BST (UK) »
The convict indent does NOT name the wife or children of Thomas LOUGHLIN. 


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Re: CONVICTS TO AUSTRALIA FROM KILKENNY LOUGHLIN, Patrick and Thomas
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 16 May 19 12:52 BST (UK) »
I can see that but perhaps cattao knows.
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Re: CONVICTS TO AUSTRALIA FROM KILKENNY LOUGHLIN, Patrick and Thomas
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 16 May 19 15:43 BST (UK) »
possible marriage Feb 2nd 1830 Thos Loughlin? to Anne Healy. The priest has written one name over the other so hard to make out
Right hand page
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635361#page/165/mode/1up

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Re: CONVICTS TO AUSTRALIA FROM KILKENNY LOUGHLIN, Patrick and Thomas
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 16 May 19 15:48 BST (UK) »
Nice one dathai, I had started on the left pages, hadn't got to the right yet.
So the children would have been born in the gap in the register.

Maybe on a passenger list.
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Re: CONVICTS TO AUSTRALIA FROM KILKENNY LOUGHLIN, Patrick and Thomas
« Reply #26 on: Friday 17 May 19 02:47 BST (UK) »
Same one.
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